Trump Responds To Indictment By Railing Against Prosecutors

Former President Trump responded to being indicted on Tuesday with an angry speech in which he painted a dark vision of the country and unloaded a litany of conspiracy theories, some familiar and some novel. Cheered on by MAGA movement celebrities, he railed against President Joe Biden and criticized, at length and with specifics, the various prosecutors investigating him.   


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“He campaigned on the fact that he would get President Trump. … Before he knew anything about me. Didn’t know a thing about me,” Trump said. “It’s an insult to our country as the world is already laughing at us for so many other reasons.”

Yup, he went there. At this point I think he wants the gag order so he can fundraise off “Look, I’m being oppressed!”. From bloomberg on what Judge Merchan was seeking at today’s arraignment. Good luck with that, Judge, how many swings are you going to let him take while the attorneys come up with a plan?

Prosecutors said they weren’t seeking a gag order in the case at this point, but asked for a protective order that would limit Trump’s ability to share evidence about his case due to recent public comments.
The judge told the parties to work on such an order and come back to him.

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Trump also honed in for about five minutes on New York Attorney General Tish James

Please. The expression is “homed in”, like a homing pigeon finding its way back to the coop. Anyone honing a knife’s edge and “honing in” on it will permanently ruin that knife.

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Trump is like toxic waste, i.e. cannot be recycled. Needs to be buried underground in cement.

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Trump telling a pile of whoppers is old hat. But–now those whoppers are going to be tested and judged by the justice system, not by the wet tissue paper of our national media. The justice system will not be assigning Trump pinocchios, or wringing its hands meekly about the many misleading statements he makes.

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Today was a full day, starting with driving my husband to yet another doctor’s visit. Getting old isn’t fun, as my mother warned me.

So, I’ve only half-watched today, not just because of hubbie’s issues (heart issues maybe brought on by his January Covid?) but also because I found refuge – or not – in looking for houses for my daughter and her family (moving from Brooklyn to Albany area – there really is almost nothing for middle-class people) and researching a college friend’s genealogy (no! she is not descended directly from Wilhelm Pickhardt of Pickhardt’s Folly, but from his brother Carl --so many interesting stories to follow in that research!).

What’s really on my mind: Trump as Christ. I remember years ago following scholarship on Christian and Muslim martyrdom. Jewish martyrdom is even more complicated. Since early this morning, through all else, I’ve been trying to figure out what is wrong with martyrdom narratives as a response to the Jesus I met it Sunday school. I think it lies in the words, “Forgive them, for they know not what they do,” but am not sure.

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A couple chances, but then what? The only way to actually enforce a gag order is incarceration. I heard some pundit comments on various media sources today saying that’s impossible for someone in Trump’s position, but of course it’s legally possible.

I just don’t know if a judge would have the stones to go through with it on a case like this based on white collar financial crimes. We’re in untested waters here, on multiple levels.

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tl;dr… Trump is too boring for an article of this length at this point. But I assume the gist is that Trump is, remains, and continued to be a toxic piece of shit.

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Judge ABJ got Stone to comply without going to incarceration. There are all sorts of things a judge can do to fuck mango mussolini without going full caging. In no particular order, home detention, travel prohibition without pre-approval, phone confiscation, prohibition from addressing more than a dozen people at a time in person, compounding fines. Once you’re in the clutches of the system your life can suck even without being in jail. It will be interesting to see how Judge Merchan handles this.

Having one’s family threatened tends to focus the mind.

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I dunno, phone confiscation is useless because he often borrows other people’s phones, and anyone can get a burner. The big threat is what he posts on social media and he friggin’ owns the platform he posts on!

Home confinement with an ankle monitor would shut down his ability to hold rallies, but it wouldn’t do anything to stop him posting veiled threats on social media. I don’t know how this will turn out, I’m just glad I’m not the judge who has to deal with this.

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So Trump’s MAL speech was a K-Tel version of his greatest hits? Is he selling it on eight track at the MAL gift shop?

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Not like, is.

Why can’t we, instead of saying his lies have been refuted, just say the crap he’s spewing is just ridiculous nonsense.

It’s nonsensical, just utterly stupid arguments, juvenile, no, childish and immature lacking any sense of reality.

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Symbolic. It’s personally humiliating, treating him like a naughty child.

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Nasty, little, beady, hate filled eyes. He looks worn out and old, old despite the tanning beds and makeup. The same old trash spewing from same old weirdly tiny little mouth. And there he is with his compatriot hangers on: Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz, two of the most ignorant and degenerate followers of the cult. With friends like that, who needs enemies? His real enemies aren’t Biden and the prosecutors and judges: they are the growing majority of Americans who see right through the blubber to the selfish self aggrandizing heart of the fading, fading, fading beast.

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Would the second coming of Christ’s vessel lie?

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Sure, but it wouldn’t stop him posting on social media, which is the root of the problem. You can do that from a desktop app on a PC or Mac, you don’t need a phone. Not that he would know how to do it, but he’d find someone to post his rants if his personal phone was confiscated.

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The root of the solution is coercive means short of incarceration. Taking away his phone and making a big deal of it is one of those means. Plus he’ll panic about what doj might find on the phone, though of course they should not have access to it without a warrant.

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Yes, all Republicans are venal, stupid and delirious enough to embrace this lunacy.

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“Nobody said, ‘Sir you shouldn’t say that.’ … or hung up in disgust,” Trump said of the Georgia call.

No, they just vomited into the wastebasket after getting off the phone with you.

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