Trump Hugs Up Jan. 6 Insurrectionist At New Hampshire Campaign Stop

Former president Donald Trump hugged and consoled a woman who breached the Capitol during the January 6th insurrection at a campaign stop in New Hampshire, the Washington Post first reported.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1456348
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Some people would be repulsed if a loud, rapey Hitler tried to scrawl his own name on their possessions.

And others, I guess, think it’s a deep personal connection. But for Trump, it was Thursday.

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“It’s terrible,” he said. “What they’re saying is so sad, what they’ve done to Jan. 6.”

Like it is a national holiday now? What an ass.

But as he revs up his 2024 reelection campaign, he’s been leading more on the paranoiac wing of his base and taking on a more sinister, extremist tone

He is not leading (or was that leaning). He is all in. What a person does when he is not sure if he will actually be elected and has been watching support drift away.

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”The fact he knows my story…”

He knows a million just like yours. He files them all under R for “Rube” and then laughingly calls you an “easy mark” afterwards.

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This clown drove from Texas to honor an (alleged) rapist.

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It is looking more and more that the 2024 election for Republicans will be a “grievance” election as actual policy and life issues like foreign policy and the economy will be doing quite well.

Conclusion of Paul Krugman’s column today:

“Now, I’m not predicting a “morning in America”-type election; such things probably aren’t even possible in an era of intense partisanship. But the idea that the economy is going to pose a huge problem for Democrats next year isn’t backed by the available data.”

Joe Biden has, to nobody’s surprise, formally announced that he is seeking re-election. And I, for one, am dreading the year and a half of political crystal ball gazing that lies ahead of us — a discussion to which I will have little if anything to add.

One thing I may be able to contribute to, however, is the way we talk about the Biden economy. Much political discussion, it seems to me, is informed by a sense that the economy will be a major liability for Democrats — a sense that is strongly affected by out-of-date or questionable data.

Of course, a lot can change between now and November 2024. We could have a recession, maybe as the delayed effect of monetary tightening by the Federal Reserve. We might all too easily face a financial crisis this summer when, as seems likely, Republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling — and nobody knows how that will play out politically.

Right now, however, the economy is in better shape than I suspect most pundits or even generally well-informed readers may realize.

The basic story of the Biden economy is that America has experienced a remarkably fast and essentially complete job market recovery. This recovery was initially accompanied by distressingly high inflation; but inflation, while still high by the standards of the past few decades, has subsided substantially. The overall situation is, well, not so bad.

About jobs: Unless you’ve been getting your news from Tucker Carlson or Truth Social, you’re probably aware that the unemployment rate is hovering near historic lows. However, I keep hearing assertions that this number is misleading, because millions of Americans have dropped out of the labor force — which was true a year ago.

But it’s not true anymore. There are multiple ways to make this point, but one way is to compare where we are now with projections made just before Covid struck. In January 2020 the Congressional Budget Office projected that by the first quarter of 2023 nonfarm employment would be 154.8 million; the actual number for March was 155.6 million. As a recent report from the Council of Economic Advisers points out, labor force participation — the percentage of adults either working or actively looking for work — is also right back in line with pre-Covid projections.

In short, we really are back at full employment.

Inflation isn’t as happy a picture. If we measure inflation by the annual rate of change in consumer prices over the past six months — my current preference for trying to extract the signal from the noise — inflation was almost 10 percent in June 2022. But it’s now down to just 3.5 percent.

That’s still above the Fed’s target of 2 percent, and there’s intense debate among economists about how hard it will be to get inflation all the way down (intense because nobody really knows the answer). But maybe some perspective is in order. The current inflation rate is lower than it was at the end of Ronald Reagan’s second term.

Or consider the “misery index,” the sum of unemployment and inflation — a crude measure that nonetheless seems to do a pretty good job of predicting consumer sentiment. Using six-month inflation, that index is currently about 7, roughly the same as it was in 2017, when few people considered the economy a disaster.

But never mind these fancy statistics — don’t people perceive the economy as terrible? After all, news coverage tends to emphasize the negative: You hear a lot about soaring prices of gasoline or eggs, much less when they come back down. Even amid a vast jobs boom, consumers report having heard much more negative than positive news about employment.

Even so, do people consider the economy awful? It depends on whom you ask. The venerable Michigan Survey still shows consumer sentiment at levels heretofore associated with severe economic crises. But the also well-established Conference Board survey — which, as it happens, has a much larger sample size — tells a different story: Its “present situation” index is fairly high, roughly comparable to what it was in 2017. That is, it’s more or less in line with the misery index.

And for what it’s worth, both the strength of consumer spending, even in the relatively soft latest report on G.D.P., and the failure of the much-predicted red wave to materialize in the midterm elections look a lot more Conference Board than Michigan.

Again, a lot can happen between now and the election. But what strikes me is that consumers already expect a lot of bad news. The Conference Board expectations index is far below its “present situation” index; consumers expect 4 to 5 percent inflation over the next year, while financial markets expect a number more like 2. If we either don’t have a recession or any recession is brief and mild, if inflation actually does come down, voters seem set to view those outcomes as a positive surprise.

Now, I’m not predicting a “morning in America”-type election; such things probably aren’t even possible in an era of intense partisanship. But the idea that the economy is going to pose a huge problem for Democrats next year isn’t backed by the available data.

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'Make America Great For Us Again." ?

I doubt that any of the 66% or more of us want your version of America ever again.

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" this most amazing man knows what I went through in the jail. "

Hi TreasonSow - just a reminder for you:

  1. He’s not amazing
  2. He doesn’t know what you went through in jail
  3. He doesn’t remember you right now, nor care if you live or die
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While I do not deny that Trump is an “ass”, a bigger issue than how to deal with Trump is how to deal with his supporters.

That is Donald Trump or even FOX news did not create their base, rather this base created Trump and FOX news. What both Trump and FOX are doing is selling and telling people what they want to hear, reinforcing their bias and ignorance, and these people are giving them their money and support in return.

In my view we need to be much tougher on Trump’s base, both verbally and when they break the law legally, than so far we have been or seem to want to be. I mean 161 days in jail for what this woman did? Think if she had been a Black person who had resisted police officers.

In my view, the only way we will stop these people who have been a continual problem in American history, these 35% of the people who are wack jobs, from wrecking it for the rest of us is to make them pay a price for their hatred and greed so that they are willing to share America and its great wealth with all Americans.

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Oh come on, don’t tell you don’t get annoyed when you see January 6th decorations in the aisle at CVS right next to the Thanksgiving table -themed stuff.

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“President Trump, will you please sign my Trump backpack that I carried up to Jan. 6?” she shouted, donning a red-white-and-blue ensemble with a matching wig. “I went to jail for 161 days for Jan. 6. I’m an Iraq War veteran.”

This is just sad. Someone serves the country at risk of limb and life, then comes home and falls for the orange con, insurrects against that same country, goes to jail for it, and comes out to drive across the country to worship at the feet of that same con man.

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“I went to jail for 161 days for Jan. 6.”

Sucker.

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It is overtaking the selection for the Epiphany gift baskets and decorations. Bothersome I tell you.

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Just go easy on the Insurrection Taffy and avoid overspending on the Q Shaman hats.

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Lot of thoughts on that. **

Agree fully.** But I have to take the wife off to an emergency dental visit.

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kiss your bank account goodbye

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1 But not Them.

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Of course…from Texas.

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“It’s so surreal, I can’t believe that,” Larson-Olson said, tearing up, after he left. “The fact that the president knows my story … this most amazing man knows what I went through in the jail. … It’s just crazy. And he gave me the pen.”

Fixed

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Oh, but soon he will.

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