Trump Camp Attempts Damage Control After Johnson Caught Being Too Explicit About Gutting ACA

So Trump "will make our healthcare system better by increasing transparency, promoting choice and competition, and expanding access to new affordable healthcare and insurance options”? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

→ They’ll offer younger, healthy people cheaper plans separate from the main Obamacare risk pool. Some people would like cheaper coverage and will sign up. But taking younger & healthy folks out of the risk pool makes for an older, sicker group of insureds, so premiums have to skyrocket. Some people then drop off due to higher premiums, and the plan begins to collapse. And that’s the Trump/Johnson objective, of course.

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I know that, you know that, the USDA knows that. It seems to be something that only imbecile Republicans don’t get. Farmers will go broke. But of course, Con-Agra will buy all the farms left up, and will triple the prices to the market. We all need to plan our own Victory Gardens. And raise our own chickens for food and eggs. I am somewhat lucky in that I know how to make cheese, and churn butter. And have always had a garden no matter where I lived, including a 10th floor apartment with a balcony.

:woman_farmer:t2:

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If nobody gets a majority of electors, and the house selects trump, as soon as the senate elects harris as vp, she pulls a 25th amendment on him, while there are still no cabinet secretaries…a majority of zero is zero.

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Are you insinuating that the Trump campaign simply lied?

It’s much easier to note only the occasions when they tell the truth. (Vanishingly rare–some Trump watchers claim he told the truth most recently in 2012–someone asked him the time of day) In all other cases we may take it as a given that they are lying.

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increasing transparency, promoting choice and competition, and expanding access to new affordable healthcare and insurance options

OK, “promoting choice and competition, and expanding access to new affordable healthcare and insurance options” are about making a market for insurers to sell crap insurance that looks cheap and covers worthless, and not have the feds muck around preventing the RWNJ states from looking the other way.

What on earth is “increasing transparency” code for? Eliminating HIPAA?

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Exactly right, @brian512 (I remember well the history lessons from the Clinton healthcare debates of ‘93-94)!

The only other thing I can think to add to the discussion is that in the, what, 14 years(?) since the ACA/Obamacare passed, I guarantee that millions more of us have developed “preexisting conditions” that would make it more difficult, if not impossible, for us to access AFFORDABLE health insurance and care.

I do think the insurance companies would not want to see the ACA repealed, as the government subsidies DID provide them with millions more customers than they had before. :thinking::person_shrugging:t2::crossed_fingers:

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(cough) Long COVID (cough)

I do think the insurance companies would not want to see the ACA repealed, as the government subsidies DID provide them with millions more customers than they had before.

That was pretty much the bargain at the time. And all their business models since.

In fact, since the individual mandate was basically gutted by TFG in 2017 by removing the penalty for noncompliance, it’s not at all clear to me what the wingnuts are still so upset about there … other than “it was done by that dark-skinned fella” of course.

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There will be a majority for someone - who is another question. I am praying Kamala wins by 5 points and 300 EV’s to short-circuit all this crap.

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Sounds as plausible as anything else – maybe more like amending, it to give insurers access to all kinds of confidential info, which they could then use to deny coverage, would be my guess.

The more Dickensian, the more likely, with this crowd.

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