There Are 19 Days Until Election Day, But Americans Already Don’t Trust The Midterm Results - TPM – Talking Points Memo

We’re less than three weeks until Election Day and early voting has begun in many states. But according to a few recent polls, voters are already skeptical about the results.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1436546
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First finally!

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“it may just reflect the sore loser mentality
…".
Hell, Republicans are also sore winners. George W was pissy, and it’s only gotten worse.

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Mission accomplished, GOP: destroyed the mightiest country from within.

I would prefer to use the present participle instead of the past participle that I used above

We are not done yet.

Only if we let the cynics on our side and the cult on their side take over.

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Here’s how voters should approach these assholes -

VOTER: Will you accept the results of the election if you win?

CANDIDATE: Of course.

VOTER: Will you accept the results if you lose?

CANDIDATE: We would have to look into that.

VOTER: Then you’re clearly not concerned with the results, you’re only concerned with winning, which means you have no right at all to run in an American election. Period.

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Related but OT (maybe paywall:)

Lindsey Graham must testify in 2020 election investigation, court rules

Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) must appear before a Georgia grand jury investigating possible attempts by former president Donald Trump and his allies to disrupt the state’s 2020 presidential election, a federal appeals court said Thursday. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/20/lindsey-graham-georgia-2020-election-investigation/ )

Note: Graham can, and presumably will, appeal.

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Well, isn’t that the point of Trump and the GOP’s bellyaching - to sabotage Americans’ confidence in the electoral results? To sow doubt?

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Just look at all the conservative “The GOP Will Win Bigley” op eds in WaPo lately. If that doesn’t happen they’ll be writing “very thougtful” pieces about the need for “integrity” and “transparency” without quite saying “election fraud”.

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The refusal to accept the legitimacy of elections they lose has been true of Republicans for at least 30 years. That is far from this being the fault of Trump, this is really more the fault of Bob Dole who refused to accept Clinton’s victory in 1992.

Far from leading this movement, Trump is merely following this movement so as to make money and gain power from it.

Republicans have not accepted the legitimacy of Democrats, and thereby Democratic victories, since at least 1992. I mean what does everyone think the impeachment of Bill Clinton was about, a blow job, really? After their overwhelming support for Donald “grab her by the…” Trump by White Evangelicals was all about; “values” or “birtherism”, which is another example of Republicans refusing to accept a Democrat. I mean every Birther would have had no issue with supporting Ted “born in Canada” Cruz had Trump not out deplorabled Cruz.

The fact is the Republican base, which created Donald Trump and not the other way around, as Trump has said, only stayed with Trump because unlike other Republicans who lost elections, Trump refused to accept defeat.

What is also true is that racism and democracy are mutually exclusive. You cannot be a racist and support a system of governance whereby everyone’s vote is counted equally. Same is true if you do not believe women are equal or gays are not equal.

Unless you believe, as obviously many if not most if not all of the Republican base do not believe, that we are all equals and entitled to the same rights and protections under the law, you do not believe in democracy and will not accept defeat through the democratic process.

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Donald Trump and his supporters and minions are a grotesque stain on the history of this nation.

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Wir verstehen nicht, was passiert ist.
— Durchschnittlicher Deutscher, 1945

“We don’t understand what happened.”
— Average American, 2025

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That was a Neat Trick by Trump:

Lose a Presidential Election universally applauded for an absence of fraud…and manage to sabotage America’s faith not only in Presidential Elections…

But ALL elections

Trump responding to a loss in the manner in which he did (even one as clear-cut as this one) was as sure as Thursday following Wednesday.

But there was the GOP: ready and willing to base their fortunes on dishonesty to the maximum degree.

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Agreed. He’s a symptom, not the disease.

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/20/politics/student-loan-forgiveness-supreme-court-amy-coney-barrett/index.html

Well isn’t that something.

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That was his appeal. He lost. Twice now.

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I think the last sentence in the article sums it up, but instead of “people” it should say “Republicans”.

"While Trump’s rhetoric fueled the distrust, Kondik says, “it may just reflect the sore loser mentality, where people are looking for excuses other than that they just got fewer votes.”

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I am far more afraid of the inattentive, indifferent, casually misinformed individual than some MTG-esque nutjob.

There are more of the former than the latter. If those people actually put in a small amount of due diligence and voted our political landscape would have been more to our advantage.

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Still hoping to see Dems coalesce around the specter of a GOP House being an existential threat to the vital national security interests of the United States. McCarthy already admitted he’d bend the knee to Putin by gutting aid to Ukraine. This cannot happen.

Also too, abortion is an economic issue. If your “number one priority” is “the economy”, then nothing even comes close to plunging families into decades-long debt than crisis parenthoods forced on them by GOP legislators.

And do I even need to mention what McCarthy already admitted a GOP House would do to Social Security checks for senior voters?

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Thanks.
Apparently, though, that doesn’t have to be the end of it:
Graham can appeal the order to the full appeals court or could ask the Supreme Court to intervene. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/20/lindsey-graham-georgia-2020-election-investigation/ )

I’d guess he’ll go full MAGA and at least seek further delay through one of these appeals.
I have no insight into whether he has any chance of getting any traction with it.

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