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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1415282
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1415282
In case no one noticed, that map of America is ALL BLUE!!!
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Of course it is. Because it has never been about “babies” or “life”. It has always been about misogyny and control.
That’s what makes seeing some of the most strident anti-choice whackos out there being female, all the more stomach churning.
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This is the hypocrisy that gets me so angry at Republicans, life begins at conception but rights end at birth.
I have said this many times, to be pro life you must be pro choice as in choice of healthcare, choice of education, choice of daycare, and yes choice of birth control to prevent and unwanted pregnancy. All choices opposed by today’s Republican Party.
To be pro life in my opinion requires supporting choices that make carrying a pregnancy to term more attractive and in the alternative also prevent unwanted pregnancies for occurring. It is why historically abortions are higher under Republican administrations than under Democrat administrations.
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I like to visit Mississippi but I wouldn’t want to live there. It’s a very poor state.
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The GOP gets to harm the lives of both the child and the mother!
What could be wrong about that?
/s
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And when the maternal and infant mortality rate increases to what percentage point with the state legislature care?
Also with their already high maternal death rate who is going to care for the infant? Have they even started to prepare for that eventuality? Yes I know family steps in, so what assistance will the family get/still get to take care of this new “person”?
There really is no getting around that the states with this barbaric trigger laws haven’t done their homework on the crisis headed their way.
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Infertile couples want children. Poor people can’t afford to have children. Children get kidnapped (“adopted”).
It’s clear as day what is going on, what the motivation is. Furthermore, when looked at from this light we can see that the entire “replacement theory” debate is really just projection on the right. They are the ones looking to kidnap the children of Democratic voters so they can be raised to vote Republican.
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Maybe they don’t care.
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“Replacement Theory” simply doesn’t compute with the statistics on abortions, which skew heavily towards minorities (likely due to reduced access to birth control, which can run quite expensive depending on what type is used).
If you really hate minorities and don’t want them to overtake you, wouldn’t you be pushing for an abortion clinic on every corner?
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What I am trying to say is that the purpose of outlawing abortion is to provide a supply for adoption. The idea behind adoption (of babies) is to take children away from Minority and Democratic households and raise them in White Republican households.
If this was a fight about reducing abortion, then we know the best ways to do that are to reduce childhood poverty and increase access to contraception. This is a plan, instead, to force women to have babies that will be kidnapped.
Well, if you’re a White Replacement Theory adherent, a minority adoptee is just as much a threat, no matter their religious or political bent.
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You’re not thinking of this very deeply. I am not suggesting that this is a rational continuum of thought. What I said was that they are projecting when they talk about replacement theory, and I stand by it, and I stand by the idea of “adoption”, better known as kidnapping,for being the primary motivation for making abortion unlawful.
Though puppies act out, children aren’t puppies.
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Or, maybe it’s just about controlling women.
(But, you know, just a shot in the dark on my part.)
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I agree with your adoption belief but may I add slavery to fill lower paying jobs.
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I think we all understand it already, but the main breakdown in these discussions is trying to apply logical reasoning to a subject that has no basis in logic and is built entirely on fear and willful ignorance. The people espousing these “theories” don’t concern themselves with concepts like “cause and effect.”
They are all just “Don’t care how, I want it now” and “Don’t tell me not to touch that third rail!” types.
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I don’t doubt that many people are sincere in their misogyny. I don’t doubt that there are people who honestly feel that abortion is wrong, and the correct response to that is to force women to have babies. I have no doubt that you are correct about many people.
But as long as we talk about this as a moral issue, and don’t focus on underlying questions of reality, such as who benefits, who suffers, and a review of the status quo anti before roe, we will miss a major part of the motivation for outlawing abortion.
If we want to get rid of all abortions, or the vast majority, all we would have to do is make contraception very easily available, and make raising a child the responsibility of all of us, so no one has to raise a child in poverty. This would eliminate at least half if not more of abortions. Nobody talks about that, because the reason that the right wants people to have babies is so that they can be kidnapped. That is why every time when I talk to somebody opposed to abortion they bring up adoption.