Schumer Warns GOP Dismissing Impeachment Outright Sets A Dangerous Precedent

On Thursday morning, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) slammed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) for signaling that he plans to dismiss the House’s articles of impeachment outright.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1269424
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My Grandmother used to caution “don’t try to reason with unreasonable people”.

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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

– Robert Heinlein

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There’s also the old saw “be careful what you wish for…”

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And the most powerful check on the executive, the one designed to protect the people from tyranny, will be erased …

Don’t worry, Chuck. When a Democrat is back in the White House the GOP will be back on board with checking the power of the executive branch.

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Good speech.

However, all it does is put a line in the sand, which the GOP will gleefully dance over.

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Chuck, Chuck, Chuck… get off the high horse and think what would Mitch McConnell do if he was in your or the Speaker position. And yeah it’s going to be a dirty and barely legal.Then go and do just that and give Mitch credit for the idea. Some GOP voters might even start considering voting Democratic as a result, they like it dirty.

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TV Ad: Mitch McConnell, Kingmaker

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creating a new precedent that will long be remembered as one of the Senate’s darkest chapters

I believe that ship sailed long ago. Aloha, Noah.

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I’m somewhat bemused that Dems have forgotten how to fight dirty. If you’re being pulled down into the gutter by sewer rats, quoting the Marquis of Queensberry isn’t your best strategy. The Dems need a few more Sherlocks:

I may be on the side of the angels, but don’t think for a minute that I am one of them.

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Indeed
Republicans have been busy

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“It will be remembered as a time when a simple majority in the Senate sought to grant two new rights to the President: the right to use the government for personal purposes and the right to ignore Congress at his pleasure,”

Whereas, acquitting Trump after staging a show trial will be remembered as the time when a simple majority in the Senate granted the President the absolute powers of a despotic dictator. It’s time to get the press on board, educate the public, then GOTV to bury the GOP in 2020 and begin the long process of reestablishing a government of checks and balances managed by reasonable people who negotiate an acceptable compromise between differing political philosophies.

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He’s not wrong. I’m still unclear as to whether McConnell can do this all by himself. It’s my understanding that that would require a 2/3rds majority to change the Senate rules. Of course, #moscowmitch has already demonstrated that he holds any rules in contempt. We’ll see what happens, and I’m so glad Speaker Pelosi is holding back the bill of impeachment. Merry Christmas, GOP!

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GOP, give out punishment.
They live to hurt.
It’s the only way they feel alive because they have nothing else.
They and Trump constantly accuse but never have proof so they hurt.

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I’m glad more in the press seem to be figuring out how to push back against the gaslighting. This morning Pam Bondi was repeating the lie that Republicans were shut out of impeachment inquiry hearings and Steve Inskeep politely interrupted her, saying “I’m afraid I have to stop you there” and corrected her. He did it a couple of times, although he didn’t push back as hard at the end, as time was running out, when she was still babbling about how the Republicans supposedly didn’t get to ask questions. That was picked up in the subsequent discussion with another reporter about what she’d just said.

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Dear Chuck Schumer,

Precedent, like laws, are for suckers. And Democrats. But my Republican’t friends would say I’m being redundant.

Love,

Ken in MN

P.S. I’m surprised a smart fellow like you hasn’t figured this out yet.

P.P.S. Not really…

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McConnell will go no farther than the American people allow. If they fall for FOX talking points, Roy Cohn bullshit, McConnell lies, so be it.

No one is forcing the American people to poll at the levels they are now polling…and they have the capability to poll up to the high 70s on Impeachment.

McConnell’s in-your-face announcement that he plans to cheat on an Impeachment Trial should have gotten the polling numbers up already

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And the other side is approaching it with “Never give a sucker an even break”.

Will Chuck learn his lesson? Let’s watch and see.

“And the most powerful check on the executive, the one designed to protect the people from tyranny, will be erased,” he said.

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The rules for the Senate trial are, from all that I’ve seen, set by a simple majority vote. VP Pence does not get to break a tie in this case, either, so that means that a proposal will fail (50-50 tie = did not pass) if three (R) defect.

If four (R) defect, a (D) rule proposal can pass. While #moscowmitch is talking big, I doubt he’s sleeping very soundly these days.

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