Right-Wing Justices Highly Dismissive Of Affirmative Action Merits

The Supreme Court has reviewed affirmative action multiple times, and repeatedly upheld race-conscious admissions. Despite the weight of such precedents, the right-wing justices did little to disguise their dismissal, at times disdain, of the arguments before them. 


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1437806

Say it isn’t so.

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The headline is redundant.

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I guess we just take it for granted now that overruling prior decisions solely because of a change in the composition of the Court is perfectly normal and okay now.

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Quelle surprise!

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Park explained that diverse groups perform at a higher level, and that diversity in the student body reduces groupthink.

“I guess I don’t put much stock in that because I’ve heard similar arguments in favor of segregation too,” Thomas responded.

WTAF? When has ANYONE EVER argued that segregation reduces groupthink? Does this man understand english, never mind the law?

Even though it wouldn’t change any outcomes, I liked it better when he was the silent sphinx of the court.

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Given the ridiculous angle ALL the members of the Court and ALL the litigants are using…Affirmative Action is toast. Read the bullshit that went on today. The entire yak is about “diversity” as in making sure the school’s make up is diverse and NO ONE has argued the intent was to ensure Black people can get educated. Thomas went off on a “how does diversity improve the education of people” screed completely sidestepping the fact that it’s not about the student body being diverse but the ability to get educated being diverse. Kav pulled a whataboutism…“how come religion doesn’t get an affirmative action plan” and it was treated as credible. The goal of Affirmative Action is not student body or campus diversity. It’s to make sure that Blacks are not kept from attending higher education. It’s to “affirmatively” reverse racial discrimination that is still with us and will be back after these SCOTUS assholes get down with this.

It’s about making sure a Black person is not denied an education because they’re Black. Not a single mother fucker on or in that Court is addressing that. BTW…Thomas road AA all through college but has been a NO vote every time it hits that fucking Court.

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It’s not a winning argument anymore. Plus, non-white Hispanics and American Indians have not been exactly over-represented in elite schools.

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Alitolini may be the shabbiest hack ever to sit on SCOTUS.

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In the final analysis, it’s cruelty. Your last sentence is spot on. A miserable, self-hating fucker who should never have had a say in anyone’s life trajectory.

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It is the moral argument though. It is what the guts of AA are. If we leave out shunning black people from higher ed as the sin then fuck it all. The same will go for all minorities…

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Yep, but that’s the point, of course. I wonder when the SC will rule that segregation’s okay?

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Meanwhile, Legacy Admissions go unchallenged.

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Probably soon enough. One of Thomas’s smart ass remarks today addressed arguments that diversity improves the education environment…“the same arguments have been made for segregation”… came out of his foul mouth.

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Perhaps I’m misinterpreting either your comment or Kagan’s questions, but I understood her to be addressing exactly that with her line of questioning about “these are the pipelines to leadership in our society.”

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Republicans don’t care about society though, it’s all about what they get out of it directly.

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Ahhh, is that what Jackson was referencing with “Now we’re entertaining a rule in which some people can say the things they want about who they are and have that valued in the system, but other people are not going to be able to because they won’t be able to reveal that they’re Latina or African American or whatever”?

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The United States has approximately 3000 institutions of higher learning. Among those, perhaps 50 colleges and universities fancy themselves as elite institutions – with the Ivies and Stanford leading the back – along with a small number of flagship state universities. It’s the elites that are a problem. And the most elite the biggest problem. Why? Because they have the resources and means to educate a far more diverse student body than they currently do. And the despite there billions and billions of dollars, they have refused to expand the number of student whom they educate. Simply increasing their undergraduate enrollment by 20%, which they can all easily afford, would enable them to admit more children from underserved, under resourced, and under representative communities.

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If the SC does toss AA out then will businesses pick up the mantle equality/equity? And if AA is tossed then gender will be in that mix.
It seems that I read recently that not many white males are attending college, not sure if that statement accounted for the Harvards and Yales out there.

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Guess what? At Harvard, at least the Sophomore class, probably others, are 18% African American. Guess who is being discriminated the most at elites? Asians, and of course, Jews.

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