Trump’s enthusiasm for pardoning the Jan. 6 insurrectionists isn’t new, according to a Politico report.
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1403695
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1403695
I am still surprised he did not issue a blanket pardon covering his family and himself. I guess he was too busy whining and bitching that he forgot about that.
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Peter Meijer, a Michigan Republican Congressman, was on the job 2-3 days on January 6…
He talked to a colleague who was voting NOT to certify and the guy said he was afraid for his family.
A lot of this is political cowardice, but I think ‘some’ of it is fear of ‘physical’ violence.
Trump called her out and the next day the Fulton County DA asked for and got FBI protection.
Trump knows just HOW to phrase things so he can say FREE SPEECH (for me not thee) but every one of his supporters knows what he WANTS to happen.
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Or maybe it is because once pardoned people lose their fifth amendment right against self incrimination for those crimes. If he pardoned them they couldn’t plead the fifth.
At least that is my understanding. Lawyers out there, is that true?
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Well, if any seriously weighs, it’s TFG.
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If i was involved in the insurrection and got jailed because of it, now knowing that he thought of getting me out of jail and decided not to, i would be really, really pissed off at him, and would no longer consider him a worthy leader of my boy scout troop.
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The question is, can this be used against Chump? It certainly goes to his mindset, but if he was looking for ways to keep these people from testifying that seems like obstruction and if it was in furtherance of other crimes he had already committed just more of his conspiracy and plotting.
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I think it’s been reported that he considered both, but probably like with this, all his advisers who aren’t named Rudy told him it was a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad idea. And he, petulantly, “choked” writing them.
NAL, but I think it’s been mentioned in the past that that’s a very overblown way of viewing it. They technically can’t be indicted for the acts covered by the pardon, but if they refuse to testify, they can be brought up on contempt charges, and fall back on the fifth amendment in that circumstance (or similarly invoke the fifth for acts not covered by the pardon).
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OT, but they should be doing this around the Villages…
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i suspect the answer is yes. He knew the insurrection was a criminal offense.
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“Another thing we’ll do — and so many people have been asking me about it — if I run…”
Run!?!
He can barely walk!
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Herpes Fishing?
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Because it would read something like this:
I, Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States, do hereby pardon myself, Melania Trump, Ivanka Trump, Erik Trump, and Barron Trump for all offenses against the United States committed by us, whether individually or as part of a conspiracy, on or before January 20, 2021.
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…and forever in the future, too.
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Nope, no can do.
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That would have completely shattered Don Jr’s heart…
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He doesn’t know that.
Remember, he’s stupid.
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Right. It would seem if you think Pardons are necessary, then you admit that what happened were chargeable crimes.
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A Florida man took his grandson magnet fishing.
Given what they found, it sounds more like MAGAt fishing.
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This orange mass of corruption is an existential threat to this democracy. It is high time that the Justice Department label him as what he is: a criminal defendant.
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