Reconciliation Negotiations Resurrected As Manchin Finally Talks Specifics

The reconciliation package is risen. 

The package has died and come back to life multiple times, amid growing anger at Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) for seemingly objecting to the bill without naming what exactly about it they don’t like. 


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1389258
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In exchange, they pass the necessary voting rights bills, including dealing with vote counting and recording, and Manchin (and Sinema) vote to overcome filibuster. in 2023, with more Senators and House members, Dems can extend the Build Back Better bill. Getting voting secured is very important, as is passing at least a part of Biden’s agendy.

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So what’s the significance of Oct 1st, Joe?

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That’s what I want to know.

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So now Sinema has no cover. She’d better pony up and get behind Biden’s agenda.

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Yeah, but fuck him.

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Yeah he’s just trolling us with that.

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Sinema blasted out a statement asserting that she too has shared her specific demands with Schumer and the White House…

Yeah? I call bullshit on her. Everyone involved who has spoken has said she has not presented any specific demands, and I believe them, not her.

Is the performative little bitch getting nervous now Manchin is apparently at play?
She’d better get nervous about keeping her job in 2024.

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Does Manchin speak for her?

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As I said before: this is all just a game of chicken. The Senator who blinks last gets the most of what they want. The only problem is that they’re playing a game in which the entire US economy is at risk but, hey, what else is new?

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Manchin confirmed today, surrounded by dozens of reporters, that $1.5 trillion continues to be his starting point in the negotiations.

Add $2 trillion to that number and you got a deal.

Until then, go pound sand, and your shiny “bipartisan infrastructure bill” can die with your bullshit number.

House progressives have long said that as soon as the Senate passes a reconciliation package, they will happily also vote for the bipartisan infrastructure plan, maintaining the two-track scheme that Democratic leadership has long seen as the surest path to both bills passing.

Good.

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Good to see you. How are you doing?

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O thank you! I’m doing well. :grinning:

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Enough time to secure the release of the Dem caucus’s BIF hostage, thereby maximizing his freedom to maim or even kill the reconciliation bill that serves as his own hostage. And he undoubtedly told Gottheimer of Schumer’s agreement not to start debate on reconciliation before October 1, causing Gottheimer to threaten to tank the House reconciliation bill unless he got a vote on the BIF before then.

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Manchin and Sinema are both self serving parasites, but if the Democrats sink a popular infrastructure bill they will not look big and strong and brave, they will look like a bunch of people who can not get out of their own damn way. Kill the bill and kill the odds of winning the midterms. Voters do not care about the infighting. They want results.

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Remind me. Is this where the “Black Lung Workers’ Comp” coverage comes into play?

Fuck Manchin. And Sinema.

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We are in play.

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Manchin playing the same games he always plays. He can, and probably will, buckle to the majority after getting some bone thrown his way.

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Highest: $2.1 T

Lowest: $1.8 T

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Some sort of FEC deadline?

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