Quiet, Boys: Where Are the Proud Boys?

Originally published at: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/quiet-boys-where-are-the-proud-boys
Donald Trump has spent years talking a big game about crowd sizes. His 2016 rallies could draw tens of thousands of people, numbers he often inflated by an additional several thousand when boasting of them after the fact; his administration heralded its arrival in 2017 by trotting out press secretary Sean Spicer to loudly and…

Gavin McInnes. Didn’t he play the captain on “The Love Boat.” How many times do these people have to be rounded up and identified until they are of no use to their terroristic aims? If you wanna round up somebody and prosecute them for buying a gun as a prohibited person, focus on these bad actors. A certain part of me wants them to get their much-ballyhooed Civil War started. It might be easier to neutralize this threat after that.

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Really well-researched and well-written story.

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For accuracy and brevity.

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It’s almost is if watching the DOJ actually do it job of investigating and charging people with domestic terrorism and sedition had a chilling affect on people wanting to openly engage in domestic terrorism and seditious behavior.

Crazy.

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Great reporting as usual from Josh K. I’ll just note, as others have said up thread, that the way you defeat these fuckers is to investigate, indict, and convict them. Pour encourager les autres.

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What have they achieved up to date? Other than make noise and see some of their brass put in the slammer what have they achieved? They’re not “standing back and standing by”…they’re doing what all flying creatures do when they’ve had their wings trimmed.

The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were never about anything but themselves. Sure they yakk tired political platitudes about freedom, tyranny and liberty but what political losers don’t do that?. Older fat guys or younger red neck cretins cosplaying bad asses in Made in China “tac gear” . In short nobodies looking to be somebody the easy way.

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— have that the group viewed itself as “Trump’s army.”
His Meal Team 6!

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And the fact that those arrested and prosecuted for their J6 activities are from all across the nation helps a lot with the overall chilling affect. I’m sure all of us have read stories about somebody local (at least same state) who has faced prosecution/conviction.

Good story, JK.

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There are several tweets that show ads on Craigslist for people to be paid to attend his rallies. Does anyone know if these are legit? Is he really doing that?

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What was especially useful was Josh K’s presence at the trial to be able to first-hand dispel the BS that security was so tight, TIFBG’s protesters couldn’t get near. It was BS then and it’s BS now. They didn’t show up because they were scared.

So, let’s stop with the Proud Boys moniker and start calling them Scared Boys.

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I’ve told this story on these boards before, but I’ll tell it again: there was one known guy from my small North Berkshires town in the J6 insurrection who was among those who entered the building. He was eventually arrested because everybody in the kitchen of the pizza joint at which he worked was so sick of hearing him brag about it that they narked him out to The Feds. :grinning:

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How many January 6 defendants have been convicted?

Approximately 884 defendants have had their cases adjudicated and received sentences for their criminal activity on Jan. 6. Approximately 541 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration.May 6, 2024

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That would deter a fair number of people. It really would.

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I was wondering that as well, because anyone can post a bogus Craigslist ad.

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The Proud Boys problem, of course, is that their Proud Daddy is a loud faker from Queens who’s now softer than a sneaker full of shit and they’re too far gone themselves to see it. Thankfully, they’re idiots.

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I laughed when I read about the Craig’s list rally attendees, whatever I was looking at said they pay $75 to show up and hold a sign, plus $50 more if you are seen or TV or put a pic of yourself on social media.

LOL, I wonder how many of them got stiffed. AOTK. LOL

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Gavin MacLeod played Captain Stubing. He died in May 2021, age 90.

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Yes, and if Josh K from Talking Points Memo can monitor Telegram chat rooms, so can the FBI/DOJ. They SHOULD be scared. I’m GLAD they’re scared.

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Bullshit will surely be flying up until Nov. 5, but something to look for on Nov. 6 will be how much inability to govern matters. The EU parliament elections, which should have seen a strong shift to the right due to migration worries, now appears to be largely a wash with most of the protest, using in the form of non-voting, coming against Green Transition policies. But then, most low-information voters stayed away. As one Finnish non-voter put it “It was raining and the European Track & Field Championships was on the tv.” My sense is that Republicans will not be rewarded for their inability to govern or offer solutions to narrowing wealth disparity. Moreover, while European Green parties did poorly in the election, some leftish parties did well. The biggest winner in Finland, Li Andersson, comes from the Left Alliance, a vestigial Eurocommunist party that now stands firmly with Ukraine. Perhaps Biden’s biggest threat is not Trump or MAGA, but Democrats who prefer to not vote in November.

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“Scared Boys”

Yup…and it’s not toxic masculinity. It’s toxic impotence.

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