Q Shaman Switches Lawyers And Floats Possible Ineffective Counsel Claim | Talking Points Memo

Q Shaman Jacob Chansley has a new lawyer — and it’s John Pierce.

Pierce is the former Kyle Rittenhouse attorney who has represented more than a dozen different defendants charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection. He made headlines in August after suddenly disappearing for more than a week, and came back only saying that he had been hospitalized while declining to state why.


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No viable grounds for direct appeal based on the existing record, and the judge will pour out the ineffective assistance claim if he bothers to bring it via habeas corpus. This is best explained as a fundraising ploy.

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“Q Shaman Switches Lawyers And Floats Possible Ineffective Counsel Claim.”

I understand this guy’s available:

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“I picked a loser. And then another loser.
And then we lost. Biggly. I want a do over”

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This may not bode well for Chansley. It means his statement of remorse meant nothing. Pierce seems like a glory hound. And the other Jan. 5 defendants may get a bit peavish about this.

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In law school, the test for ineffective assistance of counsel was explained to me thusly: hold a cold mirror up to your lawyer’s face. If it fogs, you have been rendered effective assistance of counsel.

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Man, these guys never want to admit they lost…is the argument going to be that they need an audit of the guilty plea to see if he really meant it?

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The National Constitutional Law Union, a non-profit that Pierce founded, issued the statement announcing Pierce’s representation of Chansley. It said that funds from the organization will finance Pierce’s representation of Chansley.

The statement said William Shipley, another attorney who has represented Jan. 6 defendants, would be representing Chansley alongside Pierce.

My first thought ran to “Chansley’s mom hasn’t run out of money yet”, but it appears Pierce is fundraising directly instead of leeching off the family. So who’s paying Shipley?

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Every plea agreement I’ve read included a no backsies no appeals clause. I doubt the prosecution omitted that boilerplate for chansley.

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Q Shaman Jacob Chansley has a new lawyer — and it’s John Pierce.

I guess once you have been sentenced to the prison for 3 years, what can it hurt? Although I think Pierce is going to be disappointed with the Q-Shaman, he is not the type of guy you can fundraise from, he is more of a video-playing, porn-watching hippie, that somehow went trumpie, not sympathetic at all. Had he stormed the Capitol with guns a-blazing instead of a silly hat things would be much different.

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Unless you see your own face in that mirror.

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He’s notorious. That’s all it takes.

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In which case you have a fool for a client.

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Is it just me, or is the US being overrun by Ineffective Counsel, at least on the Republican side?

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Yeah but it’s an organic-food eating hippie, not the kind of guy your crazy uncle will be willing to cat food himself after donating his Social Security money.

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Seems like ineffective counsel is all he’s got. It seems like more like a fund raising gambit for Pierce.

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I think this is more a case of ineffective plaintiffing.

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Guys are refusing to vaccinate, wonder what would be their reaction if they were ordered to do something really dangerous, like attacking a bunker.

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“short-bus people.”

Oh. Well that’s insensitive, isn’t it?

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You know you got trouble when the JD is from Trump U. or Liberty U.

I’ve heard more than one person lately lump Harvard U in that category, too.

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