Pizzerias Reopen In Naples As Italy’s Coronavirus Restrictions Are Eased | Talking Points Memo

NAPLES, Italy (AP) — Wood is burning again in Naples’ pizza ovens, giving a symbolic and savory boost to Neapolitans after two months of lockdown meant an end to their most iconic and favorite food.


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Can you get New York pizza in Naples? Or only some pale imitation?

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Chicagoans think New York pizza is a pale imitation in New York.

Why would you want to??? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Headline says:

Pizzerias Reopen In Naples

Article clarifies:

Pizzerias reopened Monday night in the birthplace of pizza, albeit under restrictions and for home delivery only.

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You got that backwards. Although NYC pie is a lot closer than whatever those casseroles are they have in Chicago.

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Any pizza slice you have to fold in half to try to contain the grease flow is sadly lacking in culinary quality.

Just sayin’…

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May the Pizza God be with you Naples.
Best pizza we ever had.

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Yes, they do. But they’re wrong.

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I haven’t been to Naples, but I did get some second-rate pizza in Venice. Now I know that Venice is not Naples, but still…

New York pizza is kind of literally a pale imitation of its Neapolitan ancestor, using different ingredients (all purpose flour instead of 00, processed mozz instead of buffalo, etc.), fired in different ovens (gas instead of wood-burning), and designed to return the best margin possible on super-low-price volume sales (dollar slice!). I didn’t see any when we visited Naples, and no disrespect to my adopted hometown’s pies, which have become their own artful, affordable carb- and cholesterol delivery system, but I didn’t miss it. Neapolitan pizza is amazeballs.

And to the haters shitting on Chicago pizza, try a tavern-style pie if you’re ever out there. It’s as good or better than New York slice, and the precise opposite of deep dish. Detroit also makes an incredible pizza, though more Roman in style.

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I’m so fucking glad it didn’t get out of hand in the south, which is so much poorer than the north, fewer resources. This is good news.

Wish I could get one of those pizzas, damn it. Only pizza I like any more -

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Oh, don’t misunderstand — I didn’t mean to imply the pizza in Italy are always good, only asked why you would go to Italy and want/expect American style…

In the last years I have been most often (job) to the Ligurian coast (about an hour’s train trip from Pisa / Florence). There some local pizza faves are pizza würstel (sliced hotdogs on top) and another one with French fries (patat? - i forget exactly…). Some pizzerias in the small town where I stay are good, others are to be avoided.

But I must say I do really like the wood fired ovens, even with a less than spectacular pizza.

Best pizza 4 formaggio I ever had, hands down, I ate in a small local dive in Paris near Mairie. Only locals, zero atmosphere (neon tube lighting!) but packed (always a good sign in countries where food is king!).

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French fries on pizza? Sure you weren’t in Houston? Or maybe Des Moines?

By the way, the best pizza in New York was–I haven’t had pizza in the city for decades–not at Johns in Greenwich Village, or at the ubiquitous (and confusingly named, as there are several different ones) Ray’s, but Vinnie’s at 73rd and Amsterdam, where you had to walk around the pizza oven if you wanted to sit down.

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Nope. Definitely on the harbor front in Lerici on the Golfo dei Poeti, where Byron tragically drowned.

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Venetians hate tourists. They wouldn’t make you a good pizza even if they knew how.

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I’ve had pizza in Venice, Verona, Rome, Naples, Sorrento, Ravello and Sicily.

There are only two, as far as I’m concerned: Naples and Ravello which was identical to Neapolitan.

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To be fair, he did most things tragically, so why not death?

 

Yes, patate – although usually not in the form of (deep-fried) “French fries.”

Going further south than where you were, I’m sure you’ve noticed that even the dough itself can be made partly with potatoes (mashed).

Yes. These were literally made with regular French fries dumped on top. Not my taste. Couple of the guys I was with liked ‘em — want to say they were Americans :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:. I think one guy even ordered it again the next time we had a meeting there and we were out looking for trouble after a hard day’s work.

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Were they on the menu?

Maybe the proprietor had something against Americans!