Pfizer Announcement All But Ends Worries About Pre-Election Day Vaccine Campaign Prop | Talking Points Memo

Pfizer said that it would likely seek emergency approval for a COVID-19 vaccine in late November, citing recent federal guidance that toughened approval standards for a vaccine, despite President Trump’s efforts to push for a shot by the “special day” of Nov. 3.


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That’s something, I guess. But with Giuliani on the case, tRump no doubt will have another awesome and effective October surprise!

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See? See? Even the drug companies are for Biden because he’s not going to send out $200 drug cards!!!

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I wanted to post this on a debate thread, but I guess it’l fit here, too:

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Ok, maybe it’s no longer a “pre-election prop”, but it still seems like this whole vaccine process is being rushed like hell. Call me skeptical, as hell.

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The Curse of the Very Soon, Perhaps in Two Weeks strikes again. Sad!

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I wonder about their definition of safety if they can hit criteria for it so quickly. I guess late-onset adverse effects are unlikely enough, but still.

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That announcement will not stop them from claiming that there is a vaccine available before the election. It’s really sad that your state’s deep state health department refuses to make it available to you.

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Trump will just do what he always does, which is say it will be ready in two weeks.

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The FDA has said that it will approve any safe vaccine that is more than 50 percent effective.

This cant be normal, right? 50% efficacy gets this shit on the shelf? Efficacy this low would fail half the time, destroying faith in all vaccines.

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You all realize that late November is still a record. It is indeed warp speed. The drug companies are doing a good job.

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IANAEpidemiologist, but if I understand things correctly, cutting the effective reproduction rate in half would be an incredible public health coup and could, in combination with the basic precautions most of us are already taking, return our daily lives to normal within a few months of widespread deployment.

This shit ain’t the measles. It’s a feeble (or weak, or small! not powerful!) spreader in comparison.

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Trump is so over the vaccine-in-November thing anyway. (Not that this has or should have any bearing on its development process.) He’s now all about the miracle cure he claims to have been given. Promising that it will be free and everyone will be able to get it. Even the CEO of Regeneron denies that it will be widely available, but Trump couldn’t give a shit about facts.

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Everybody is dumping on the Pestilent now… if they had that courage three or four years ago or even earlier this year, we will be in a much better place.

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Flu vaccines often turn out to be even less than 50% effective. Higher is better, but 50% is still very useful. Part of the low efficacy is due to high genetic diversity and rapid evolution of many viruses. The extreme case is the common cold, where we don’t even try to have a vaccine.

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He also said Trump’s case is basically meaningless as relating to the effectiveness of their drug:

President Donald Trump has called the antibody cocktail he received to fend off the coronavirus “a cure,” but the chief executive of Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. said Sunday that Trump’s case is merely “a case of one,” and the treatment still needs more testing before its efficacy is known.
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It costs him nothing to cite history that hasn’t happened yet, so Trumpski gets off on promising the future. His believers only get “jam tomorrow.”

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The hype and inflated expectations coming from the White House is damaging. (“Operation Warp Speed,” really?) But I have vastly more faith in the professionals doing the trials (including Big Pharma) than in the administration and its rolling clown show of Scott Atlas, Ron Vara Peter Navarro, and the “demon seed” lady.

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The way the big surprises are going, their October surprise may be “Guess what! It’s November!”

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Not so much – flu vaccine is about that.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

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