Pennsylvania Supreme Court Takes Over Redistricting Due To Deadlock Over GOP-Drawn Map

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court will draw a new state congressional district map after Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf and the GOP-controlled Pennsylvania legislature got locked in a stalemate over the map drawn by Republicans.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1403770
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Republicans could try to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court…but they would be ā€œasking to unwind a century of precedent, and that’s a tall ask.ā€

Maybe not so tall, these days?

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I don’t like Judge MAGA McCullough being appointed as the special master, but I do believe the PA Supreme Court will be consistent with their landmark 2018 decision and more or less keep the current map in place and perhaps have a redraw that adds a district in the growing SEPA region and/or perhaps around the metro Harrisburg region and takes a seat away from Northern PA where the population has been decreasing. That might yield a 10-8 D map.

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I like the way this is going. My own district was severely gerrymandered until the 2018 decision and now we have a nice lady representing us with a D after her name. All you have to do is look at the contorted previous map and the far more coherent one now to see that it’s a much fairer arrangement. We’re the blue burbs here, mostly, and that’s how we’re represented now.

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Republicans could try to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court to argue that Wolf doesn’t have the authority to veto their map, Geffen said, but they would be ā€œasking to unwind a century of precedent, and that’s a tall ask.ā€

As if this Court gives a shit about precedent.

ETA. I see @christianhankel beat me to it. Congrats.

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I’m jealous. I have Fred Keller ( R ) now…and probably will still have Fred Keller ( R ) after November :frowning:

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Sorry. It’s depressing as I well know.

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Ditto, but I’ll add my 2Ā¢ anyway.

That would be the same Court that recently held ā€œWe conclude that partisan gerrymandering claims present political questions beyond the reach of the federal courts.ā€ Does the Court, which clearly ā€œis not comprised of a bunch of partisan hacks,ā€ now ignore distinguish its own precedent to reach the desired result?

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Even if the goopers did appeal to ā€˜their’ scotus I can’t see scotus overruling the PA supremes on this. If they did choose to overrule the PA supreme court’s decision they should just go ahead and wear maga hats and announce their decision in front of a Federalist Society banner.

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On one hand, my question is whether this also covers legislative district maps. On the other hand, the current US Supreme Court is rather firmly committed to a theocratic totalitarian state and basically doesn’t believe in the Constitution. Amy Coney Barrett’s Opus Dei priest told her so, and who wants to go before the Christianist Inquisition? ( Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise… our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency… Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope… Our four …no… amongst our weapons… amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…oh fuck it, we’ve got a Scotus majority and our Proud Boy friends are armed to the teeth…)

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I believe it’s also the same court that will find gerrymandering in New York, Illinois, Maryland and such does fall into their jurisdiction but Texas and other rethug gerrymandering does not.

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They just think that now that they have a stacked court, every little wish is going to be fulfilled, and their paradise will have arrived. Unfortunately for them, being wholly ignorant of the Constitution, election laws are regulated by the States. I am of a mind that in order to short circuit these authoritarian morons, perhaps the Feds (Congress) should step in and decree some sort of uniformity in the election process. When some group is determined to misuse the precedents and the laws that have served us just fine until dishonesty and mendacity became the credo of one Party, It may be that the only way to save the Federation is for the Feds to take over. They whine about big government running their lives, but like immature spoiled brats, they refuse to acknowledge that their very own selfish behavior is the reason new laws have to be written.

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The NC Supreme Court is looking at the district maps drawn by the GQP controlled legislature, which may be the most gerrymandered ones in the country. They redrew them in a more fair way for 2020 and I am keeping my fingers crossed they do it again. The Dems do have a majority on the state SC.

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Meanwhile in New Jersey.

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Traditionally matters of this sort are left to the local State Supreme Court unless there is clear constitutional violation or requirement. I don’t see that in this case, so the US Supreme Court is going to have reach a long way to find that. but the Federalist Society hacks that control the court these days are capable of making up shit to ā€œsupportā€ their intervention.

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And the nice lady with the D is one of the prime targets in the map the jerks in the legislature drew.

Who is drawing the maps for the legislature? I also have a nice lady with a D in the state House, and don’t want to lose her either.

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I’ve read our district was one of the most severely gerrymandered in the country before 2018. It’s a blue-burb county that was once solidly red with country-club Republicans who didn’t really go for the ignorant yahoos and were jumping ship. You know they wanted to shut all that down.

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Were you in the so-called ā€œGoofyā€ district?

I remember when I got the right to vote, the only way to have any effect on what happened in this County was to vote in the R primary, assuming there was one for any given office. And then throw away your vote on the D, assuming there was one, in the general.
Whole place was a Rubino fiefdom.

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This is great news for John McCain!

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