Ohio Court Greenlights Anti-Abortion Language In Banner Ballot Amendment

Late Tuesday night, the Ohio Supreme Court handed down its decision on the abortion amendment summary that will appear on ballots this November. The amendment would enshrine abortion protections in the state constitution. 


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1469140
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Uh huh …

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These GOP operatives disarm democracy where ever they can. They are busy e.v.e.r.y.w.h.e.r.e.

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This is one more example of politicians acting in their own narrow interests rather than broad wishes of the citizens. Our system doesn’t work! Why? Because the vast majority of politicians are corrupt and should be removed from office, by whatever means necessary.

When you see half of the population favoring the Orange Asshole (and draft dodger) returning to run the country, it is obvious that we can no longer allow this situation to continue. Fuck democracy and fuck the Constitution, America needs to rise up and act.

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“Ohio Court Greenlights Anti-Abortion Language In Banner Ballot Amendment.”

You misspelled “Gaslights”.

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So DeSantis is now pro-baby? Great! That means he will expand the child tax credit (not a chance), add funds to SNAP (why? let them eat cake), and provide child care for working moms (no, its socialism, marxism, fascism, some type of -ism). Even funding for pre-natal care (to help his “babies” before they are real babies) will be off the table too. Don’t be fooled, DeSantis cares nothing for babies except if he can use them to get some votes for himself.

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Fetuses are not babies or children.

Repeat…

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Sen. Todd Young, R-Ind., summarized Wednesday’s meeting as being focused on “pro-baby policies.”

He’s interested protecting Republican House members? That’s where the babies are.

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It did not see any problem with the anti-abortion gambit to substitute “unborn child” in place of “fetus” throughout the text.

Shocker.

The only surprise is that the conservative majority didn’t require “this amendment would allow abortion up to the moment of birth” be added. I believe that’s the framing the current “pro-life” movement is using to make exceptions that protect the health and life of the mother sound nefarious.

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Dobbs is going to destroy them at the polls and they’re too stupid, white, Christofascist, and misogynist to realize it.

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Doesn’t matter what language is used, the Ohio forced birthers will lose bigly in the November 2023 ballot. Remember the Kansas referendum in August 2022:

Supporters called their proposal the Value Them Both Amendment and it was referred to as such in the “explanatory statement” as such on the ballot…opponents of the amendment…have said that, while the language of the amendment did not specifically reference an abortion ban, state legislators would be empowered to pass such legislation and would likely do so… Analysts noted that the “No” option outperformed Biden’s vote share in the in every county, and won in several suburban counties where Trump had won a majority in 2020…

GLWTS. The People (even those that suport TFG) want access to reproductive care. The MAGA GOP Know this. I imagine that the bast*rds are even now stratigizing on how they will attempt to overide the People’s vote with some legislative bravo sierra.

At the top of the agenda were items to “dissolve” the board, turn the meeting over to the superintendent, then nominate and elect a new chairman. The language of the agenda alarmed the community as an apparent attempt by the ousted board members to maintain a grip on power.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/sep/01/restraining-order-cancels-lame-duck-west-bonner-sc/

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It kinda does. If the Amendment to the Ohio State Constitution says ‘the citizens of the State of Ohio’ can’t ban abortions, that means they can’t put a pro-abortion measure on the ballot… but that a future case can be made that the Legislature is under no prohibition against erecting hurdles to abortion, because that’s the State, not the citizens, taking action.

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No, they don’t. You don’t have to credit their bad faith justifications for exercising dominion over women’s reproductive lives and keeping them chained to their partners.

ETA: And this does not seem like a court that’s at all likely to accept the will of the voters when this amendment passes by 20 points.

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The language under discussion is the explanatory text for the ballot, not the actual text of the constitutional amendment. The antis are attempting to gaslight the voters by using freighted language to explain the amendment in hopes that the voters will be sufficiently confused or repulsed to vote against it.

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In Repub parlance, a fetus (now referred to by forced birthers as an “unborn child”) is a precious gift from God that must be protected at all costs, but children (ex utero) are lazy freeloaders and a burden on society.

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Even if it did, the state GOP still wouldn’t. We are now past the quarter century mark since the Ohio Supreme Court first ruled that the method for funding Ohio schools was unconstitutional. Those wily authors of the Ohio Constitution snuck in a provision requiring the state government to provide a “thorough and efficient system of common schools.” The Ohio Supreme Court ruled in 1997 that the standard funding method (i.e. property taxes) violated that provision due to the vast disparity in resources between the rich and poor school districts.

Spoiler alert - the Ohio GOP has never fixed that problem even after 25 years and no fewer than four additional rulings from the Court confirming that it’s still unconstitutional.

It’s become such a long running comedic tragedy that one of the state’s largest newspapers (the Columbus Dispatch) runs a low-key, informal anniversary update. Here is their latest:

Its hard not to believe that the only thing that matters to Ohio Republicans anymore is sheer political power. The few times they do face political backlash or legal accountability are notable for their rarity.

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“Pro Baby”? What kind of B.S. language is that?

These guys are more “Pro Impoverished Mother”, “Still Birth”, and generally in support of “Human Misery” than they are of any positive agenda (regardless of the phoney “Pro” phrasing of their Luntz language). If they were remotely serious. they would be spending substantial funds on child care to ameliorate at least some of the suffering they will cause people who were forced to have unwanted children for years to come.

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But this isn’t about the language of the amendment. That isn’t changing.

This is regarding the summary description voters will see on the ballot. I agree that it matters, and have no doubt the approved summary was designed to benefit the deceptions intended for use on the anti-abortion campaign. But it doesn’t change the language of the amendment itself.

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Exactly. This is a the same - or worse? - Supreme Court that flat-out ignored the will of the people when they passed an amendment intended to end gerrymandering of the state representative districts.

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The amendment language is unchanged. The fight is over the plain-language description of the amendment that will go on the ballot.

The problem is that the amendment’s full text is short and understandable enough, it really doesn’t need a shortened, plain-language summary:

My suggested solution was that the amendment sponsors should argue that the full text be put on the ballot rather than fight over the language of the summary description. That apparently didn’t happen.

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