New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) on Sunday said she holds tech companies “responsible for not monitoring and alerting law enforcement,” following a shooting at a Buffalo supermarket that the suspect live-streamed on the social media platform Twitch, according to officials.
Well, Governor, as soon as you figure out how to do away with the internet entirely, let us know. Because that is the only way to prevent people from disseminating their views through the internet.
I’m no expert, but it seems to me that a good, internationally proven way to prevent mass shootings using high powered, high capacity guns is to PUT SOME LIMITATIONS ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THE FUCKING GUNS.
Let me be frank here:
The farm’s live stream YT channel has been occasionally de-monetized or even shut down completely because some of the content was viewed as too controversial.
What’s controversial about goats, you ask?
Well, sometimes the births get a little messy. Sometimes, the live feed will catch some of the baby and teen goats doing what comes naturally. Sometimes, the live feed will catch a goat pooping. At one point, it was recommended to the farm that they put a rating on their videos, so that children don’t mistakenly view these recordings unattended (yeah, they really did say that one time).
Recently, son in law reported on a recorded video that YT doesn’t like the farm content because it won’t appeal to advertisers. How could it not appeal to farm-related advertisers when IT’S A FARM?!?!?!?!?
Someone is sure monitoring our little farm channel with its 24,000 subscribers. And yes, it gets reported periodically from viewers who have less than legitimate complaints - mostly haters (I’ll say it out loud).
But no one said anything about a go-pro on a helmet being worn by an assailant with an AK-47 (or facsimile) who said he was going in to kill people?
It’s all about the Benjamins, isn’t it…
Alerting law enforcement? That might have helped were it not for the fact that so many people in law enforcement agree with this person’s ideology. They’re more likely to cheer him on than try to stop him once they’re “alerted.”
That was not her point. She did not suggest the existence of the internet pay the price but that folks hosting the words of others not be allowed to let money trump humanity.
Taking guns away is NOT going to happen. That issue is so awash in misinformation and phony patriotism. Guns guns guns keeps a major political party in power. There was a time for taking a gun oriented approach but very few of the folks in power to do so had the courage to do so.
The Governor has a point. Without the lazare fair landscape the internet lives in it might be possible to hold them to task for “promoting” violence like that in Buffalo. Current rules are skewed in favor of the platforms and maniacs like the prick yesterday take advantage of that.
I find it hard to believe this asshole didn’t have a violence fetish that was not known to mommy and daddy. I’m sure they ignored it rather than confront the fact their precious darling was in fact a monster. There’s room there to put heat on this as well.
Censoring goats acting like goats just seems silly to me.
The article says that Twitch claims it stopped and removed the live stream within 2 minutes of the start of the shooting. If true, that seems like a fairly efficient reaction time. However, I know nothing about how the technology works and what is possible or should be expected. What do the experts say?
This might seem tangential, but there is a building of feeling that we need to turn a corner and return to the Rule of Law…and when I say this, I am speaking as much in terms of attitude as in actuality.
The abortion issue has not gone away, and although it may not seem related they are: it’s (actually they) are authoritarianism and rule by force over consensus.
A political party concerned with government for all people would not devise ways for minority rule (and I say “rule” intentionally).
This election will be about whether we are ruled…with governance a weak tag-along.
And this is why I believe that the J6 Hearings will shift focus directly upon those who have little problem with deaths (by gun or by lack of reproductive care…or by overthrow of our democracy)
Well, you know, we do have to protect the children. Goats, books, senseless violence… oh, wait - one of these things is not like the others.
I understand she wasn’t talking about the entire internet, and I agree social media platforms should be scrutinized for their acts and failures to act, and more regulation could help. I also understand your point about guns, especially in the current political environment. But between limiting First Amendment rights and supposed Second Amendment rights (that have nothing to do with the premise of a well-regulated militia), I’m always going to go with supporting freedom of speech.
Blame the spoiled brat child Trump and his Republican party.
Just like guns, the Internet isn’t going away anytime soon. That said, though, there are no rules that therefore say that just any ol’ kind of weapon–or feature–can or should be available.
Livestreaming via social media platforms is not something people need to have, just like high-powered semi-automatic weapons are not guns that people need to have. IANAL, let alone a constitutional one, but it strikes me that, within the discussions and debates about rights, setting up and applying a system of tests that make distinctions between wants and needs would be a helpful thing to do. Maybe there already exist such tests. I just don’t see much evidence of their getting applied.
How about calling out Tucker Carlson and the rest of the Fox freak shows. When will they be held accountable for the violence and death that they incite.
The 12th of Never, I’m afraid. Nothing they’ve done is prosecutable, at least from what we’ve seen so far. All first amendment defense.
When the Stanley Cup finals are played in the Ninth Circle.
Alright, now you’ve done it.
I want naming rights on the next hockey stadium. Ninth Circle, it is… LOL!!!
I take her point and it’s valid but also, ideologies and movements have spread globally for thousands and thousands of years. Book printing technology speeded that up dramatically and so did the internet, but this is what humans do. It’s why there was coinage in so many places at the same time. It’s how Buddhism made its way to China
Gun violence or Covid?
They were sued about the latter.
Fomenting racism and racial violence is the business model of many rightwing media figures as well as Christian white evangelicals. They make millions preaching their gospel of resentment. Social media companies know that the gospel of resentment sells and they need to sell to make their businesses work so their algorithms embrace hatred and resentment… The gospel of resentment sells and sells and sells. It tells millions of white Americans that they are having their lives ruined by black and brown people, and by liberal elites, who are trying to replace them and their children.
Most aggrieved whites aren’t going to kill anybody but there are always a few like this 18 year old kid who let their inner John Wayne come out and start shooting people. The gospel of resentment aids the cable news companies who see their ratings go up with the body count. That is why Tucker Carlson preaches resentment every night, all night.
Nobody is going to make any headway with reducing the number of mass shootings until we take the cash out of the equation.