No Live Audience At Next Primary Debate Due To Coronavirus Concerns, DNC Announces

The Democratic National Committee announced on Tuesday night that there will be no live audience at the Democratic presidential primary debate in Phoenix, Arizona on Sunday.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1296294

All debates should be like that
Catcalls hooting and Hollerin’ contribute nothing

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And no spin rooms, either (as will be the case with this one).

It’ll be interesting to see how viewers will assess the actual arguments made in the debate without the “hooting and hollerin’” to guide them.

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I actually think this might make that debate much better. Being forced to play to the audience is never the same as speaking to the American people all around the country anyway.

It may turn out to be more like an academic discussion of sorts if CNN can avoid getting some asswipe moderator that wants to turn everything into a sideshow where they intentionally try to provoke one candidate into going after the other, as they’ve generally done in the past. All that does is end up being more on the level of personal attacks, which is what CNN tries to get candidates to do to one another so they can say they put on a good show or something. Generally, that ends up telling us nothing of where they stand on the issues in any depth. I would rather hear about other matters that have gotten little attention in other debates and this would be the best way for that to happen. Like I say, it all depends on what moderator they get to conduct this thing however. Hopefully it won’t be some dipshit that just wants them to duke it out rhetorically.

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To a limited extent, they tell us what messages resonate with the unrepresentative segment of the voter base that has the interest and resources to attend a debate. That’s not nothing, but I think it’s clear that a live audience is a net negative.

That said, I think debates themselves are of very limited value in modern politics. This isn’t 1960; I can trivially learn as much as I want about a candidate’s policy positions and history from the comfort of my living room on my own schedule. I consider myself to be at least one standard deviation more knowledgeable about politics than the median voter, and I haven’t watched a primary or general debate in at least a decade.

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Jake Tapper, Dana Bash, and Jorge Ramos.

Evaluate accordingly.

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First, get rid of Dana Bash. She’s horrible. Jake Tapper can go either way. He has the ability to go high or go low. And Jorge Ramos…generally a very good moderator.

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I agree with these, and for the reasons you state–and now, that it’s a two-person race (unless Gabbard can force herself onto the stage), we’re likelier to get substantive questions and respnses.

Still, as I read your comment, I couldn’t help but think that at least one of the questions might be something like, “I want each of you to speak directly to the camera and make your best case why Warren should endorse you and not your opponent.” The Bachelorette: The Dem Primaries Edition.

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But who will Bernie yell at?

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Ugh. Need more coffee…

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I hope that it’s more of a round table discussion than a debate. I want both Joe and Bernie to show where they agree and where can come together for the sake of the Democratic Party and for the country.

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I agree with this up to a point. There can be a value to them, though, when we see the extent to which a participant is listening closely to what someone else is saying there in the moment and responds to that. Warren showed she was/is really good at that when she went after Bloomberg with the request to release complainants from their NDAs. That part was planned, I suspect, but she set it up by repeating part of what he’d just said about those complaints.

ETA: Candidates really just ignoring the questions and, even, what other candidates have just said in favor of repeating prepared talking points–that’s not debating. Listening and responding, thinking on your feet: that’s debating.

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Not debates anyway
Never have been
Extended Press conferences with questions

What…is your name?

What…is your quest?

What…is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

For reference:
de¡bate

/dəˈbāt/

noun

noun: debate ; plural noun: debates

  1. a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.
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WHy DOes SENILE Joe want a SIT down DEbate? Because ALzheimERs has made hiim lose His balance. Bernie can STAnd!

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Start cancelling Trump rallies, his energy would be exhausted in a few weeks… he feeds on the crows applause and noise…

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Caw, Caw, Caw.

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I hear what folks are saying about this and certainly agree with the general vapidity of it all. It rarely rises above the beauty contest level. I guess there might be value in the fact that the candidates are trying in part to push each other off balance. It might reveal some intangible qualities—poise, say, and ability to give and take. National leaders are successful or not at least in part depending on their ability to talk in a room with a bunch of strong egos and come away with some percentage of their policy agenda moving forward. That said, I don’t know what we could possibly learn from this debate that we didn’t know for a long time.

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This is what, #15? Gotta agree with you on that for the most part.

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These are not fresh new faces we’re seeing, about whom we’re curious and eager to know more. I guess it’s like hemlines, the voting public has decided and now the fresh new faces are over on the discount table.

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A succinct and accurate summary of the made for television debates. They don’t even rise to the level of a public service announcement.

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