He said that given options he would prefer electrocution.
You know nothing, ajm. And I mean that, you are literally clueless about this stuff. Perhaps spend a couple years in law school before bloviating about stuff you literally know nothing about.
Iād say theyāre pretty good, and, apparently the judge isnāt much fussed about it. TBF: Thereās not a lot that Trump could say that would actually hurt the Judge⦠since the Judge isnāt a three-year-old, and, the judge does get the last say on disgorgementā¦
Trump has caused deaths ā in my view ā recklessly verging on deliberately. And there is a very low probability that our legal system.is going to do much, if anything, about it.
In this day and age you can lead a lynch mob over the Internet and if you are sufficiently indirect, you will get away with it. Wild.
I assure you that attending law school would not change my views on this matter.
What is bothering you is that I do not share the almost theological reverence for a theory of the First Amendment which protects threats and which equates freedom with limiting government action. Threats, in my opinion, limit speech at least as much as government actions taken to limit threats.
Despite my extensive legal training (271 episodes of Perry Mason) Iām still not quite clear on the following - can the judge in a civil trial order dfg to undergo an extensive psychiatric evaluation? I do believe heās already aced a cognitive test (person, woman, man, camera, TV) but I still believe having a psychiatric exam would provide additional insights into the extent of his obvious depravity as well as providing entertainment value to the millions of us enduring his daily blizzard of bullshit.
Or is my comment incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial?
No it is not.
And I would think any competent psych type would detect massive personality disorders and gobs of mental illness in dfg
As for being responsible for deaths I would have us recall the 800,000 who died of covid on his watch while he said covid would go away with warm weather. Then his hydroxychloroquine and strong light presser led directly to a Phoenix couple going to a pet store and buying fish tank glass cleaner containing hydroxychloroquine. Within an hour the wife was in an ER and her husband was dead from ingesting that product.
Maybe locked in a pillory with rotten fruit heaved at him? Err⦠maybe that is too midieval?
Stop me if you have heard this beforeā¦any other swinging dick in the universe would be in jail over this behavior by nowā¦especially the top secret documents fiasco.
What is bothering me is your utter disregard for anything. Maybe go start a thread with your self-important thoughts on aerospace engineering or industrial agriculture? Iām sure they would be equally enlightening.
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What does Shakespeare have to do with Henry II and Thomas Beckett? The Bard never used that line.
Well, itās about time! However the proof of the pudding will be when the Orange Asshole (and draft dodger) decides to see where the red line is and then crosses it. Hopefully the judge will give him at least a weekend in jail to think about it. However, I doubt it. I donāt think the judge will want that in his obituary. Sad!
The halls of the courthouse have become trumpās maga rally stage⦠cannot he and the press be prevented from smearing the US Courthouse walls with this filth?
I was more concerned about threats of violence; TFG is not above such things.
Yes, he has⦠a history of that sort of thing. But. The law is quite permissive, that is, the rules against speech are quite specific. If Trump were to say, to an assembled mob carrying torches: āLetās burn this place down!ā Likely, he could be prosecuted, but āThis witch hunt must be stopped!ā falls well short of the mark, even if the result were to be similar.
Oh, the images that come to mind ā¦
Why? Because he didnāt slap your ass in jail years ago?
Voting in the wrong district? I know that was cool for Ann Coulter, but how about the woman in FL who got sentenced to 5 years for that? They also tried to do it to others, but I think (after scaring those people to death, and putting some in jail) they got to go home ā mission accomplished ā voter suppression, but I digress.
Is it true that it is rare to go to jail for civil cases? Even in red states?
Would have been nice, but not possible since James has only been NYS AG since 2019. Oh, and Letitia James is a āshe.ā Details matter.
Really, I completely agree; details truly do matter. I must have been distracted. I assumed he was talking about The US Attorney General (which you have to admit, is also on his mind half of the time). Now I realize that the article was abt the NY case.
It is a full-time job keeping up with tRumpās many enemies, but like I said, I was distracted by a stink bug that was buzzing around me. (LOL)
ETA some stuff
Iām quoting your entire message to emphasize that itās as useful to me and other readers as āyouāre wrong.ā
I donāt know whether youāre saying:
- ātoo soonā (with which I agree), or
- ācourts cannot hold those in contempt anywhere but a established-by-legislature, fully accredited jail or prisonā
Thatās something I know next to nothing about, but if that were the reason, it might remotely bear on those discussions of Congressional inherent contempt power: regardless of whether inherent contempt exists in principle, it canāt be used until one house ā or both conjointly, or signed legislation ā designates/builds a brig?
I suspect Iām thinking like a Marine: CO posts a sign reading āBRIGā on a QUADCON with a grate padlocked on: voila, a field-expedient brig.
Wait, thereās more possibilities of how Iām wrong:
- āthere currently exist appellate courts who would override this judgeās discretion because of who the plaintiffs is or was, and/orā
- āthe amount of money and true legal skill which would be poured into creating the filing could create enough doubt that a motivated court could declare with a straight face it raises āsignificant questionsā (note the language more directed at the public)ā
Yeah, weāve always lived in a country with ātwo standards of justiceā ā and we know that ātwoā undercounts them. If thatās the reason, we might as well appeal up to the SC now and get a ruling that former presidents are not subject to detainment as a result of contempt of court (but āthis ruling does not establish precedentā Iām sure).
- āthis could be done legally, but the appellate courts will, for various social reasons, declare improv jail too much of a departure from ānormalā procedures. PS: this is fineā
When I see that kind of inflexibility in thinking about threats as part of an organizationās security posture, I figure there will be plenty of other threat vectors that people are refusing to think about. Good news for me if Iām auditing them, bad news if itās my best and only country shutting its eyes and whispering āthis isnāt happening this isnāt happening.ā