New York Judge Issues A Gag Order After Trump Launches Wild And False Attacks On His Court Clerk

He said that given options he would prefer electrocution.

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You know nothing, ajm. And I mean that, you are literally clueless about this stuff. Perhaps spend a couple years in law school before bloviating about stuff you literally know nothing about.

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I’d say they’re pretty good, and, apparently the judge isn’t much fussed about it. TBF: There’s not a lot that Trump could say that would actually hurt the Judge… since the Judge isn’t a three-year-old, and, the judge does get the last say on disgorgement…

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Trump has caused deaths – in my view – recklessly verging on deliberately. And there is a very low probability that our legal system.is going to do much, if anything, about it.

In this day and age you can lead a lynch mob over the Internet and if you are sufficiently indirect, you will get away with it. Wild.

I assure you that attending law school would not change my views on this matter.

What is bothering you is that I do not share the almost theological reverence for a theory of the First Amendment which protects threats and which equates freedom with limiting government action. Threats, in my opinion, limit speech at least as much as government actions taken to limit threats.

Despite my extensive legal training (271 episodes of Perry Mason) I’m still not quite clear on the following - can the judge in a civil trial order dfg to undergo an extensive psychiatric evaluation? I do believe he’s already aced a cognitive test (person, woman, man, camera, TV) but I still believe having a psychiatric exam would provide additional insights into the extent of his obvious depravity as well as providing entertainment value to the millions of us enduring his daily blizzard of bullshit.

Or is my comment incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial?

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No it is not.
And I would think any competent psych type would detect massive personality disorders and gobs of mental illness in dfg
As for being responsible for deaths I would have us recall the 800,000 who died of covid on his watch while he said covid would go away with warm weather. Then his hydroxychloroquine and strong light presser led directly to a Phoenix couple going to a pet store and buying fish tank glass cleaner containing hydroxychloroquine. Within an hour the wife was in an ER and her husband was dead from ingesting that product.

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Maybe locked in a pillory with rotten fruit heaved at him? Err… maybe that is too midieval?

Stop me if you have heard this before…any other swinging dick in the universe would be in jail over this behavior by now…especially the top secret documents fiasco.

What is bothering me is your utter disregard for anything. Maybe go start a thread with your self-important thoughts on aerospace engineering or industrial agriculture? I’m sure they would be equally enlightening.

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What does Shakespeare have to do with Henry II and Thomas Beckett? The Bard never used that line.

Well, it’s about time! However the proof of the pudding will be when the Orange Asshole (and draft dodger) decides to see where the red line is and then crosses it. Hopefully the judge will give him at least a weekend in jail to think about it. However, I doubt it. I don’t think the judge will want that in his obituary. Sad!

The halls of the courthouse have become trump’s maga rally stage… cannot he and the press be prevented from smearing the US Courthouse walls with this filth?

I was more concerned about threats of violence; TFG is not above such things.

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Yes, he has… a history of that sort of thing. But. The law is quite permissive, that is, the rules against speech are quite specific. If Trump were to say, to an assembled mob carrying torches: ā€œLet’s burn this place down!ā€ Likely, he could be prosecuted, but ā€œThis witch hunt must be stopped!ā€ falls well short of the mark, even if the result were to be similar.

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Oh, the images that come to mind …

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Why? Because he didn’t slap your ass in jail years ago?

Voting in the wrong district? I know that was cool for Ann Coulter, but how about the woman in FL who got sentenced to 5 years for that? They also tried to do it to others, but I think (after scaring those people to death, and putting some in jail) they got to go home – mission accomplished – voter suppression, but I digress.

Is it true that it is rare to go to jail for civil cases? Even in red states?

Would have been nice, but not possible since James has only been NYS AG since 2019. Oh, and Letitia James is a ā€œshe.ā€ Details matter.

Really, I completely agree; details truly do matter. I must have been distracted. I assumed he was talking about The US Attorney General (which you have to admit, is also on his mind half of the time). Now I realize that the article was abt the NY case.

It is a full-time job keeping up with tRump’s many enemies, but like I said, I was distracted by a stink bug that was buzzing around me. (LOL)

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I’m quoting your entire message to emphasize that it’s as useful to me and other readers as ā€œyou’re wrong.ā€

I don’t know whether you’re saying:

  • ā€œtoo soonā€ (with which I agree), or
  • ā€œcourts cannot hold those in contempt anywhere but a established-by-legislature, fully accredited jail or prisonā€

That’s something I know next to nothing about, but if that were the reason, it might remotely bear on those discussions of Congressional inherent contempt power: regardless of whether inherent contempt exists in principle, it can’t be used until one house — or both conjointly, or signed legislation — designates/builds a brig?

I suspect I’m thinking like a Marine: CO posts a sign reading ā€œBRIGā€ on a QUADCON with a grate padlocked on: voila, a field-expedient brig.

Wait, there’s more possibilities of how I’m wrong:

  • ā€œthere currently exist appellate courts who would override this judge’s discretion because of who the plaintiffs is or was, and/orā€
  • ā€œthe amount of money and true legal skill which would be poured into creating the filing could create enough doubt that a motivated court could declare with a straight face it raises ā€˜significant questions’ (note the language more directed at the public)ā€

Yeah, we’ve always lived in a country with ā€œtwo standards of justiceā€ — and we know that ā€œtwoā€ undercounts them. If that’s the reason, we might as well appeal up to the SC now and get a ruling that former presidents are not subject to detainment as a result of contempt of court (but ā€œthis ruling does not establish precedentā€ I’m sure).

  • ā€œthis could be done legally, but the appellate courts will, for various social reasons, declare improv jail too much of a departure from ā€˜normal’ procedures. PS: this is fineā€

When I see that kind of inflexibility in thinking about threats as part of an organization’s security posture, I figure there will be plenty of other threat vectors that people are refusing to think about. Good news for me if I’m auditing them, bad news if it’s my best and only country shutting its eyes and whispering ā€œthis isn’t happening this isn’t happening.ā€