New Study Finds Large, Uncounted Death Toll As COVID Surged | Talking Points Memo

Tens of thousands of additional deaths occurred in the United States between March and July of 2020 on top of the COVID-19 death toll, according to a paper released this week.


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It did not have to be like this. Vote like your life depends on it because it does.

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We all knew it could have been more, because they were saying it was less.

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Some of these excess deaths may have been improperly categorized because, early on, we didn’t understand that severe clotting leading to cardio-vascular and renal failures were possible.

Sadly, there were also states that were eager to downplay the impact of the virus and used a strict standard of proof that resulted in Covid-19 deaths being attributed to pneumonia and other causes.

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Haven’t we been talking about excess mortality and undiagnosed deaths since March?

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Even if some of these were systemic (e.g. people not going to the hospital to get life-saving treatment because they were afraid of contracting Covid) they largely would not have happened if the federal government had adopted the “Public Health” approach instead of the “Hunger Games” approach.

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Excess death, caused by excess dumb. :frowning_face:

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One of the perks of being recently retired is I don’t have to listen to the screeching of the harpy I worked with who claimed the same BS.

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Excess deaths is simply a by-product of hospitals and medical staff working at full or overload capacity. Many people who wouldn’t have died had they been able to get regular treatment, simply fell between the cracks when hospital facilities to treat them simply weren’t available or when they didn’t want to go to a hospital for fear of infection. These are deaths due to disruption that probably wouldn’t have happened without the pandemic.

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The only Covid death that I really wanted to happen, did not.

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Must have been all those COVID-45 victims that “disappeared like magic”.

By dying…

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If excess deaths were top of mind we would always say at least when acknowledging the death toll.

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So you worked in the WH communications department? I understand that they hire only the best harpies out there.

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BeBest!

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If Republicans had spent even a tenth of their time and energy suppressing Covid as avidly as they do voting rights, this would have never happened.

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They are still trying the Bull Phucky of only 6% COVID deaths, heard it on the radio just the other day. Bets the discrepancies in “red” run states will never be corrected and the Death Cert will just say unknown causes. Those unknown causes in reality are 1000% incompetence at the Federal as well as the State levels. In my red state, we have been listed within the top 10 states for COVID infections for weeks, the ass of a gov however says all is well open everything.

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I actually had more than one in mind…

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The Melaniese dialect is heavily influenced by Trumpish. In Trumpish “best” would be translated as “ordinary” in standard English. When refering to something of the most superior quality they use the word “bestest”.

So yes, I am already being ordinary…

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yep