New Lawsuit Seeks To Enforce Disqualification Clause Against Trump In Colorado

A government watchdog group spearheaded the filing of a lawsuit Wednesday in Colorado  invoking the 14th Amendment’s Disqualification Clause to bar Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot due to his actions on and around Jan. 6. 


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1467969
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i wish that they should stop all this until he’s convicted of something.

Otherwise he’s only allegedly a insurrectionist

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Trump attempted the Banana Republic maneuver of trying to overthrow the duly elected government. It is only just that he suffer all the legal penalties that flow from that. That’s the rule of law…

Or, informally, FAFO.

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If it upsets the grifter-in-chief, then go for it. But it is moot, he would lose in CO anyway.

And he need a good ass-kicking by the voters.

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I don’t think he is even an alleged (as in indicted) insurrectionist. But he is in fact an insurrectionist.

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Ridiculous attempt. Convict someone first, especially a former POTUS.

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HELL YES! Kick his fat ass from one state capitol to another until the bitch cries for mercy.

Not sure about this. Wait until the deep red states retaliate and throw Joe Biden off the ballot. There is no substitute for if Trump is the nominee, then he must be defeated at the polls.

Edit: reworded for clarity.

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lol. Its called being politically as well as legally smart, son.

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I haven’t considered this lawsuit long enough to decide whether it’s a good or bad idea, but…

The 14th Amendment does not require prior conviction. It merely requires that the person “shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

If you are suggesting waiting for a conviction for insurrection or rebellion … well … that will be a long wait. There are no such charges in any court I am aware of.

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Biden’s only chance of being president for a second term rests on 45* running.

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Flagged.

@chuck_voellinger

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You could’ve stopped after “Even if this is the wrong way to go…”.

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Building a legal case makes the political one stronger.

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It’s uncomfortably close to “one weird trick” territory. Convict him of a crime and/or clobber him at the ballot box.

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Too hastily written, now edited.

How long until Truf Social tells us about how White Knuckling Joe Biden is making common cause with swing state judges and ‘good government’ groups to interfere in the upcoming election?
Maybe, they’re even having meetings at the White House.

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I’m sure you understand that what CREW filed was a “legal case,” not a political request to the CO SoS. And you may have read this quote from the article:

CREW’s director of strategic litigation Nikhel Sus told TPM that part of the calculation [in choosing Colorado] was filing in places where they could put on extensive, evidence-heavy trials.

So, it looks like “building a legal case” (putting testimony and documents into the public record) in order to have more ammunition for the political fight is a big part of what they are trying to do.

A quick scan of the complaint makes that even more apparent. It lays out Trump’s efforts to reject and overturn the election from pre-election to January 6 – much like the J6 Committee did.

As I said in my first post, I haven’t thought about it enough to decide if it’s a good idea. But it should be judged for what it is – a political statement wrapped in a legal complaint that is not dependent on a prior conviction.

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Trump’s likely shellacking in the general election in Colorado is beside the point. The hashing and rehashing of the facts surrounding his sedition can only help to more fully inform the electorate and perhaps to bring the 14th amendment before the Supreme Court. Some fun.

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Throw Biden off the ballot for what exactly?