Minnesota SoS Won’t Get In The Way Of Disqualification Clause Case Against Trump - TPM – Talking Points Memo

Minnesota’s top election official will remain neutral and not oppose a Disqualification Clause case against Donald Trump that is pending before the state’s Supreme Court.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1469866
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By saying that the lawsuit is the appropriate process for deciding whether Trump can won

“Mawwaige…”

Edit: Sorry, I guess I’m supposed to add a cat photo. Here’s the most recent picture I’ve taken of Scotty, who would like to promote his new concept, boxception:

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Political question reserved to Congress, not the courts.

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Yes. I’m perfectly happy to let the courts in as many states as choose to, speak because I expect the process to be instructive. Am I too innocent?

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I can’t tell whether you’re agreeing or disagreeing with the proposition that the courts have no place in the 14/3 disqualification controversy.

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O Yeah, the courts should stay out of it, no fukkin exceptions.

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I’m a bit uneasy with a cafeteria-style state-by-state approach to the Disqualification Clause - unless there are a fist full of sizable EC vote Red states that break ranks and stand up for constitutional integrity & say NO CROOKS on the ballot.

There’s weird stuff that can happen if the national party assumes that a particular state is an absolute lock at the top of the ticked & overlooks down ticket competitions !

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Yeah, the courts’ only role in this is to make it clear that they don’t have any role in this. But will the plaintiffs here even attempt to seek review at SCOTUS if they lose in MN? I’d like to see all this nonsense shut down definitively, but time is flying.

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Yes, but I think we need to get that in writing from the courts, preferably the SCOTUS.

Paraphrasing what I’ve said in other threads, it probably would have been best to have never started, but now that the cat’s out of the bag, I feel we need some rulings from the court that formalize it. Otherwise, I foresee Republicans turning around and trying to weaponize the Disqualification clause against Democrats.

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Agreed, which is why I was speculating whether the MN plaintiffs would even try to take it up to SCOTUS. I could see SCOTUS working pretty fast to punt the question back to Congress, but they need to have a case presented to them in order to do that.

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Didn’t Congress address that political question in 18 USC §2383, which creates the specific place for the courts to act on disqualification? The cases filed in CO and MN are an attempt to short circuit that path, but that doesn’t mean the path doesn’t exist, and it doesn’t give SCOTUS the easy out of “political question.”

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I know that your law training informs you opinion w/r/t this question. I defer to you on that.

I’d add that I’d like it shut down as I believe it also to be a political turd.

The worst thing that can happen is it f*n works. It’ll be chaos.

And Republicans might nominate someone stronger. A more quiet competent fascist…

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The State court decisions concerning Trump’s eligibility to hold a Federal elected office will doubtlessly end up before the Supreme Court. They will face considerable public pressure to resolve the issue. I hope they decide to decapitate the Trump campaign for the good of the country like did in 2000 Gore v Bush.

§ 2383 is arguably an exercise of Congress’s enforcement power under section 5 of the 14th Amendment, but trump hasn’t been charged or convicted for it – and its disqualification from office is only available as a punishment for conviction of that criminal statute. Whatever else might be used to enforce section 3’s disqualification provision remains in Congress’s authority.

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“Simon only asked that the court decide”

And the game is … hot potato!

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I can’t imagine they have a stronger candidate. And fascism doesn’t work with a quiet leader in charge. It requires obnoxious buffoonery to whip up the rabble.

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The strongest GOP candidates are the ones not running because they would neither be willing or able to beclown themselves to survive the current Republican primary electorate.

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But I can’t think of any non-current candidates who would fare any better in the general election than last night’s Seven Dwarves. Somebody like Romney would get blown out by probably double digits because the MAGA cultists won’t turn out for anything less than trump, and only trump is capable of putting on the act that the MAGA cultists love so much.

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While it is coherent enough to understand in the main, this story is in need of some judicious brushing up via editorial review, etc… I count at least one instance of a missing word, one instance of the wrong tense of a word, and one run on sentence that is badly in need of trimming or commas/breaks/what-have-you.

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I think one of the very popular Northeast Republican Governors (Scott R-VT or Sununu R-NH) would give Biden and Democrats a run for their money. We’re lucky that they’d never survive the current GOP primary and are so disgusted by the state of the national GOP, they even decline running for Senator.

Second tier would be Kemp (R-GA), Youngkin (R-VA), Lombardo (R-NV) and DeWine (R-OH) as reasonably popular governors who could potentially make Democrats sweat in the right circumstances.

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