Medical Examiner Offers More Details About Capitol Officer’s Death Following Insurrection | Talking Points Memo

Oh, really? The strokes are what triggered the natural causes. No information given about what may or may not have triggered the blood clots.

Does any one know whether footage exists of what Sicknick encountered at the Capitol beyond the bear spray?

Does bear spray itself produce an increase in blood pressure in certain individuals?

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The officer was sprayed full in the face with a fog pattern of 2% pepper spray which is 3-4 times more potent than the usual self defense spray. And he got it full in the face. I find it very hard to accept that the bear spray had no causation in that officer’s death;

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I think you get 2-3x indemnity when you die “in-line of duty”, no? Vs. “natural causes”
That appears to be quibble point…

There is no video affirming he was hit in head.

Yes, there was…”natural causes” means they did not find contributory external factors…just like collapsing from heart attack is considered natural causes.

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Just waiting for the GOP to label it suicide.

(And accuse Maxine Waters of murdering him.)

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Let’s not turn into gops. If the actual evidence is a stroke, then do let us stay grounded in reality and accept that evidence.

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I’d go further, but we know that frying pans hurt.

@irasdad

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Ever had a bruise? Ever let yourself get so angry at someone that your blood pressure goes up? What about pushing back with all.your might on a door some one is trying to push open?

Given what we know about what triggers strokes I’m not willing to say nothing to see here until I know more about how his day went.

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Ok…the medical examiner said there were no internal nor external factors, thus his finding of “natural causes”

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According to D.C.’s chief medical examiner, Sicknick suffered two strokes and died of natural causes a day after he confronted rioters during the breaching of the Capitol.

Francisco J. Diaz, the medical examiner, told the Washington Post that the autopsy found no evidence of Sicknick suffering an allergic reaction to chemical irritants. Diaz said that particular reaction would have caused Sicknick’s throat to quickly seize. Additionally, no evidence was found of Sicknick sustaining internal or external injuries, the Post reported.

Diaz acknowledged that Sicknick was among the officers who engaged with the pro-Trump mob that stormed that Capitol, and told the Post that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

I find this extremely difficult to believe. I know that some people react very badly to stress. Stress can shorten your life. Hell, stress can kill you. Stress is usually a long-term killer. This death is very coincidental. I think we can all agree that the insurrection of January 6th was indeed extremely stressful for the Capitol Police.

Diaz said the autopsy found that Sicknick suffered two strokes at the base of the brain stem caused by a clot in an artery that supplies blood to that area of the body. The D.C. medical examiner could not confirm whether Sicknick had a preexisting medical condition due to privacy laws.

Well, this would be a very critical piece of information, and if he had a preexisting condition for this he should not have been qualified for confrontational police work. Medical intervention could have saved his life. How do I know about this? Let’s just say that I know considerably more than your average American about thrombosis, how it is arrested, how it is mitigated and how it is defeated.

Correlation is not causation. Neither is coincidence. However, I have a hard time believing that Officer Sicknick would have died on January 7th if there had been no insurrection. My heart goes out to his family.

Now, talk about names coming close to reality. Sicknick is pretty close to Sickneck.

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Well, I for one found it perfectly natural that the 1/6 crowd attacked Congress after so much provocation from Donnie for weeks, so yeah, let’s go with “natural causes”

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Well I guess we should be thankful that Officer Fanone only got tased into just having a heart attack.

In addition to the heart attack, Fanone suffered a concussion on January 6 and is now dealing with a traumatic brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder.

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Any time anybody dies of natural causes you can be sure that Hilary did it.

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Even Hilary?

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She’s really that good.

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A pre-existing condition, if it existed, should have been taken into account with respect to his employment. If his employer did not know of the pre-existing condition(s), then the onus would be on Sicknick for not informing them. If Sicknick found out that “anatomical artery malformation, narrowing of artery or aneurysm” were known, he should have immediately informed his superiors and been given desk duty. No heavy duty. No confrontational duties. A physically easy job.

So did his employer know that he had a pre-existing condition that could impact his job performance? Did Sicknick know of a pre-existing condition? Or is the D.C. Medical Examiner’s mention of pre-existing conditions and not confirming those alleged pre-existing conditions for privacy reasons just blowing smoke? We may never know…but the investigators might know already since those alleged pre-existing conditions should not hinder an investigation into a potential homicide. Unless, of course, the Medical Examiner wishes to halt a homicide investigation.

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Sometimes they’re not known until after the fact.
The one I always think of is Joe Strummer, who died of a heart attack in his sleep when he was only 50 from an undiagnosed congenital heart defect.

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And sometimes not even then.

After several days in the ICU, three MRIs and two cerebral angiograms it was the considered opinion of three neurologists that “there are some things medical science cannot explain.”

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