Major COVID-19 Vaccine Trial Gets Underway With 30,000 Volunteers | Talking Points Memo

The world’s biggest COVID-19 vaccine study got underway Monday with the first of 30,000 planned volunteers helping to test shots created by the U.S. government — one of several candidates in the final stretch of the global vaccine race.


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Made a bet with friends the other day about the date we thought the vaccine would be injected into our bodies. I said January 15. Too optimistic? Maybe. Maybe not.

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For those interested, here is a link to a nice summary of different vaccine types and some key ongoing trials. It’s a bit dated (mid April) but it gives an overview that is helpful. It also shows how rapidly the medical community is responding and how they immediately understood the implications of what was happening in China and Europe before covid-19 entered the US in force.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.immuni.2020.03.007

One can only imagine the US lives that would/could have been saved if the Republican Party and the President took the virus seriously and put the health of US citizens ahead of their own personal power grab and politics.

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He’s already too late

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In late October, Trump will declare that he has created a vaccine that will be ready “any day now. Best vaccine. Never seen better.”

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Start making a list of all the people refusing to wear masks and calling COVID-19 a hoax. They get the vaccine LAST.

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The problem with the WH and Dotard supporting the vaccine is that since they are so dishonest that they can’t be trusted for anything at all. Does anyone doubt that they would send doses of hair oil in syringes to blue states if they thought they could? I plan to get a flu shot as soon as they are available and to get a vaccine as soon as I hear from actual scientists that it works. I have no plans to listen to the WH on this.

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Nothing…and I mean NOTHING within four or five degrees of separation from Trump, Trump World, or any venture connected with Trump in the LEAST…should be associated with ANY vaccine used or given to anyone.

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Poor donald doesn’t get to toss the first pitch at a Yankees game cuz of his “strong focus on the China virus” and other presidenting stuff (see politico.com for the exact quote… it’s a racist doozey). As if he understands anything about vaccines and science/medicine in general which he has talken pains to disparage, downplay and reject for the last 7 months.

Hss he faceplanted yet?

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Better yet, not at all. Or give them a hoax vaccine.

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They’re going to refuse to get vaccinated anyway.

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Call it what trump thinks it is. He calls it a “China virus, why not a China vaccine”?
I hope this trial shows the vaccine to be safe and effective. Lord knows we need it. And of course trump will attempt to grab credit cuz it’s what a fraud does.

Sorry, I’m in a foul mood again. I’ll let myself out.

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I sincerely appreciate the efforts underway-- as well as the individuals who are volunteering to participate in all of the trials underway. From the article, I have to add a caveat to the following snippet:

Governments around the world are trying to stockpile millions of doses of those leading candidates so if and when regulators approve one or more vaccines, immunizations can begin immediately. But the first available doses will be rationed, presumably reserved for people at highest risk from the virus.

With a confluence of categorical comorbidities? I’d be likely to qualify for the ‘people at highest risk’ offered a vaccine early. I probably would not accept the first round on offer.

“These trials need to be multigenerational, they need to be multiethnic, they need to reflect the diversity of the United States population…”

The individuals engaged in the trials? Seem too broad a sampling. Specificity to the ‘highest at risk’ categories might make me more comfortable to accept one. But actuarially weighing-- ‘will it protect me’-- versus the possibility of unknown longer-term after effects-- versus ‘how many more years do I expect to live’?

One I’m going to have to consider more deeply-- than raising my hand to be at the head of the line for a new vaccine.

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Everybody is in some sort of mood, it goes with the times. Here, it is being disturbed. Realizing as I take my smoke break in the garage that it is Monday and not Sunday. That was a struggle of understanding. The pulse of traffic and sound outside is identical for a Sunday morning, meaning nil. It had gotten noisier again but is trending sharply downward. Even the birds are being quiet. Turned on the radio in the garage just fill up space. Rush hour is now hush hour.

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It’s ok darr. That’s why we’re all here.

How is you best friend doing? I wish you peace.

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Yes. At least if you are only considering effective vaccines. Spring of 2021 is probably the most optimistic and realistic time line.

Trump however is betting that he can announce a vaccine this fall…his “October Surprise”. And he has been telegraphing that for some time.

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Oh, that’s asking too much. You’ve already imagined yourself running weaponless into a school building where a gunman was shooting children. There’s only so much imaginary self-sacrifice we can ask.

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That’ll be the possible catch in all of this. Running this so quickly may be necessary given the crisis, but it specifically shortcuts that extremely important step of knowing what side-effects there are, particularly anything that takes longer to appear.

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We are also shooting at a moving target…

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How long have we been searching for a vaccine for HIV/AIDS? Viruses mutate. They are tricky creatures and we have very short memories. tRump likes to bend reality to his will but that doesn’t work with things like this.

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