LISTEN: Supreme Court Hears Arguments Over Disqualifying Trump – TPM – Talking Points Memo

The Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments over whether Donald Trump is disqualified under the Constitution’s Disqualification Clause, starting at 10:00 AM ET.

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at

i’m doing a shot if Kavanaugh says ‘beer’


Alas, the sun will not rise over my yardarm, so I’m stuck with coffee. But loud cheers and jeers are ready!


Why do I have the feeling Leonard Leo had several of his interns prepare the opinion for the corrupted court to issue that overturns the Colorado decision?


You would get pretty drunk if this was a gun case and bear is acceptable.


It will be interesting to see how the conservative justices find a way to carve out an exceedingly narrow criteria for why Donald Trump, and only Donald Trump, can not be excluded from any state ballot.


Calebrisi: that Section Three of the 14th Amendment does not apply to the President.

Indeed, so obvious, how can the King be an officer when he is King.


I am not counting on this decision to vanquish the dotard, but his freedumb hanging in the balance probably gives fatso agita, so that is a plus.


Leo’s work was all on the front-end. No need for him to chivy the Fascist Five, they know why they were selected.


They will use the same excuse that they had in Bush V. Gore that this is a one-off decision as they overturn the Colorado court and order Trump on the ballot.


Let’s just say that the 6 Tarantulas allow that he can be removed from the ballot(s).
That will imply an insurrection did occur, right?.
Won’t that affect the Jan 6 case that Smith is trying?
Wouldn’t that alone keep them from finding against Chump…knowing this decision will trickle down and affect another ongoing case of huge import?


Let’s hear the justices’ questions.

Listen closely, kids.

Ya gonna hear a diaper load of discomfort.

For an old Boston pol like me it just doesn’t get better than this.

I got coffee and a puppy nearby. Let the games begin.


Yep, they don’t just know who’s buttering their bread, but also where that butter came from and why their bread is getting so very much butter.


How many folks think that when the Founders jotted down the 14th they had Presidential exceptions in mind?

This isn’t a question of law it’s one of semantics. A bullshit argument invented to give the SCOTUS and excuse to “save their boy” as Elie Mystal put it. We can expect Trump will stay on the ballot not because what he did was cool with our Founders but because his bros take up 6 seats in SCOTUS.

Make America Great Again? Try just making America America again.


I’m looking for the weaseling out of literal interpretation, original intent, etc.

Would love to hear references to the Framers of the 14th such as Thaddeus Stevens.


My guess is that they’ll find that it isn’t self-executing, so they’ll blame Congress for not creating a mechanism for them to find unconstitutional.


So, 6 religious fundamentalists that lied flat on national TV to get their jobs as the legal arbiters of our entire nation are about to tell us that a president who tried to overturn a legal election using a mob of people he knew were armed and who he directed at the seat of our government is perfectly legally able to run again and finish the job off, having seeded our voting apparatus countrywide with extremist lunatics.

Good job, America. Way to prove your churches, and your money, and your legal system, and your election system is corrupt to the very core.


The way to do that is to say that the Presidential oath is different from every other one-- which it is, in which combination of words it uses. (I think it’s “uphold” vs “defend” the Constitution?). The way this uniquely applies to Trump is that every other President we’ve ever had so far has always taken the other worded oath at some different point, in lower office on the way up. So Biden would be a match because he took the magical oath when he became a Senator earlier, so the 14th WOULD apply to him, just not Trump.


Have you tried the sweet funk of marijuana? No yard arm required…


There’s six of them.

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