Lawyers representing Leigh Corfman, the woman who accused 2020 Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexually assaulting her when she was fourteen and he was an adult, said on Monday that Moore had “likely failed” the polygraph test he’d taken in an attempt to discredit Corfman and his other accusers.
What is it about the current generation of old “christian” white men?
They’re just trying to get more biblical, back to the time that women were married as soon as possible after they started menstruating.
Now I see why Judge Moore wanted the 10 Commandments in his courtroom. He must have wanted them to face inward, towards him as a reminder.
The local mall didn’t need a polygraph to ban him, and I suspect the Lord he prays to won’t need one either.
No doubt Moore is a shitbag, but lie detector tests are pseudoscience. They (1) are a stage prop for the police to get people to confess their guilt if they believe the machine is going to figure it out anyway and (2) the lie detector operator usually knows what outcome the police want and it is very easy for them to deliver it, much like police dogs will alert on cars at the will of the police to give them a pretext for a search.
No less a person than Kavanaugh ruled that the Government had proven their case that they were useful for folks like the FBI and CIA.
And he refused to take one…
Admissible in court or not (and it varies), there’s enough there to have meaning.
He also failed the pedophile detector test:
The look on his face was priceless.
Note that the 10 Commandments only forbid coveting thy neighbor’s wife.
They say nothing about her smoking hot 14-year-old daughter…
I hear Fat Nixon could find him a position along the border at one of those juvenile concentration camps. You know, sort of like a mall without stores…or exits.
That photograph of Moore is pathetically sad and grotesquely humorous at the same time.
Buffalo Bob on a binge.
There is no scientific evidence for the veracity of the polygraph technique, and the supposed hallmarks of lying are easily masked by anyone willing to employ a few simple tricks. (see, e.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fHkCFxgQQ) Having passed or failed a polygraph test is evidence of only one thing - that you took a polygraph test.
Not at all. While it is true that some people can pass a polygraph while lying their asses off (Aldrich Ames being the poster-child for that), even the willingness to undergo one is considered important by investigators and prosecutors.
The government doesn’t use them for the CIA, NSA, FBI and other 3-letter agencies because they don’t have legitimate value.
And it’s much easier to think you can beat one than to actually sit down with a good interrogator and do so.
If you won’t believe me that polygraph tests are bullshit, perhaps you’ll believe the APA. https://www.apa.org/research/action/polygraph The fact that you note that some people can defeat polygraphs while lying their asses off seems to be an admission on your part that polygraph tests cannot and should not be relied upon. And for whatever it’s worth, at least a couple of those three letter agencies that you cite to for authority believe that torture works for extracting information from suspects and continue to engage in it in spite of the overwhelming evidence that torture does not work at all.
Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh ruled (a few years back) that the government had proved their case that the tests were useful.
And he refused to take one.
Says quite a bit about the relative value of the tests.
Whether they can be used as proof of guilt in court, that’s a different debate, of course. But for non-punitive results, there’s clearly enough there that the professionals see value.
Why won’t these god-hating, non-christian, out-of-Alabama lawyers simply believe in the buybull and the things jesus made up?
Remember, that Jim Ziegler, Alabama State Auditor, quoted these important facts and evidence when he said:
“Take the Bible: Zachariah and Elizabeth for instance. "Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist. Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus. There’s just nothing immoral or illegal here.”
Move along folks. Roy Moore may be a pedophile but there’s nothing to see here that’s immoral or illegal.
I don’t think it’s just the current generation of creepy hypocrites. I think the difference is that with the increased speed and range of social communication and recording technology plus the greater awareness in the MeToo movement, these monsters are finding it harder to get away with their crimes and suppress their victims. Plus, talking about sexual abuse by “respectable” adult males is no longer a forbidden subject, nor are the vulnerable people they target always automatically assumed to be opportunistic liars trying to bring down an upright citizen. (Though that assumption is still too frequent.)
These predatory creeps were always out there, but their veil of secrecy and entitlement doesn’t work quite as well these days. A long way still to go, but some progress has been made.
The stress meter kept moving into the low teens.
Same as the prior one.