Bwahahaha,…Maserati Micro-dick.
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Wouldn’t want to deprive the community of his services as a budding First Responder…
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According to @txlawyer, he would get the same judge.
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It’s interesting. I expected at least a few jurors to be immovable on acquittal, but if there were some resolute holdouts, that probably would have led them to tell the judge they were deadlocked. I just not one or more holdouts for conviction that the rest are beating up on.
I’m still not sure that it worked the first time.
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Chances are that there are a few gun-obsessed yahoos in the jury. America is thick with those.
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A 12 year old Tamil Rice and his Daisy BB gun would like to have a chat with Hannity. Oh wait!
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Correct, unless Schroeder leaves the bench or recuses for some reason before the retrial. And he hasn’t done or said anything remotely bad enough to get removed for cause, which basically never happens in real life.
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And Wisconsin is even thicker.
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Gun yahoos like their guns. They also really don’t like things that make their continued toy possession more tenuous, which is exactly what happens when idiots like rittenhouse run around doing stupid shit.
I think you’d find that his “support” is much more limited in that crowd, to a specific subset of white supremacists who are nuts on a number of other levels.
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“Many lies were told by the media mob,” Hannity said. “MSDNC’s referred to Kyle Rittenhouse as a White supremacist or vigilante with no evidence whatsoever.”
He traveled to another state, armed himself with an assault rifle, and went to a street protest with the expressly stated goal of protecting other people’s private property. That’s the dictionary definition of a vigilante.
As to white supremacy, here he is hanging out and flashing white power signs with the Proud Boys.
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I would adjust that by saying that a long wait indicates that the jury is probably trying to come to a consensus that everyone can live with. That could end up being outright acquittal, but seems at least as likely here to be a compromise conviction on the lesser charges. And I would also suggest that with five different counts, it’s also plausible that they may be hung up on just one of them. For all we know, Rittenhouse could already be convicted of first degree murder but they’re hung up on whether shooting the guy with the handgun was more self-defensey.
True. And if the jury reaches a verdict this afternoon, don’t be surprised if the judge waits until Monday morning for them to announce it, just for the sake of not risking any protests over the weekend.
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The take away -
Don’t try to stop an active shooter ?
You can legally be shot dead.
What a country.
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A lot of people are saying that Bruce Schroeder, Matt Gaetz, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Roy Moore, Cardinal McCarrick, Ted Cruz and Old Crow Moscow Mitch are all competing to adopt Kyle Rittenhouse to prove that they are more christian, more conservative, more gun loving and blue lives-mattering than anyone else.
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Even if the jury comes back today, which is hardly a given, it’s unlikely a verdict gets announced on a Friday afternoon. Would be foolish to do so…
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No, Rittenhouse used a rifle.
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In Wisconsin we do judicial rotation. So a judge presiding over your case can get re-assigned to Civil. Or Family, or Probate. In which case you would have a new judge. Or Judge Schroeder (in his 70s) could retire, or have a health issue.
Most likely, though, a re-trial would be Schroeder 2.0.
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Was Hannity looking in a mirror when he went on his rant about MSNBC not caring about facts and saying mean things about people without support?
A jury isn’t supposed to do that, they are suppose to focus on the facts of the case in front of them. It’s really too much to ask a jury to consider possible consequences of their decision on society, and it’s not fair to the defendant as the decision isn’t coupled to the facts of a case. If you want justice, you must keep the trial about the case at hand…even if the decision is inconvenient to the rest of society that’s the only way to make it fair. Yes, that means that we get decisions where bad people get away with things and encourage others to do the same thing, but if the prosecution can’t make their case then they shouldn’t get a conviction.
And, really, do you want people going into a jury room on a mission to “send a message” with their decision? What do you do when it’s not a decision that favors your political leaning? Our justice system has to stay neutral, if we should have learned anything during the Trump administration it’s how easy it would be to twist the justice system to serve a person instead of the truth. As flawed as it can sometimes be, what we have is pretty fair overall…frustration that someone gets off when you think they deserved conviction shouldn’t turn into burning the entire thing down and changing to forcing our will on the system.
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It’s day 4…I will not be surprised if Schroeder asks the jury this afternoon for a progress report. My guess is they are hung up on one or more of the charges and trying to work out what the right answer is…and, it’s not simple, things happened quickly and they have two competing arguments to work between. My hope is they have decided to convict Rittenhouse of at least one lesser charge and are working on the harder charges…the cynic inside me says that there is at least one holdout in the room who refuses to go along with any conviction or compromise with the majority of jurors who want a conviction on one or more charges.
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