Jury Deliberations Resume In First Criminal Trial Of Former President - TPM – Talking Points Memo

[stradivarius50t3]

@zenicetus

It’s a low level felony, a non-violent crime, and he’s a first time offender. He may get probation with no jail time. If he does get jail time, it could be a short term like several months. If it’s that short, he’ll probably go free while the case is appealed, since the appeal would take longer than the sentence.

I would be okay with 240 hours of community service plus a significant monetary fine.

[alyoshakaramazov1]

cat

Viola Purrlude in D

[lastroth]

Ok water courses are more stationary than the wind. It took the wrath of Vulcan to make the Mississippi River run backwards, twice-once in 1811, and then in 1812.

[ralph_vonholst]

Do violas use catgut?

[stradivarius50t3]

@ralph_vonholst

Were they all paying attention when he read them the first time?

Apparently New York doesn’t allow the jury to have a written copy of the jury instructions.

That seems really.stupid to me, but there it is.

[godwit]

@justruss

The “we don’t care” part is something that gets missed a lot. Too much discussion out there acts as if this is still a functional environment.

Yes, although they do simultaneously seem very thin-skinned about it. We should be realistic in what we can force them to do (nothing) just as we are realistic in what we can rationally persuade them to do (also nothing), but we should also not be afraid to hassle them for being what they are. Getting called partisan hacks really bothers them, and it’s not like our being too polite to notice is going to keep them from making terrible partisan rulings.

[jonney_5]

@alyoshakaramazov1

cat

Beautiful Mew-sic

[alyoshakaramazov1]

@txlawyer

The defense is a show, not a real effort to demonstrate innocence.

And it was a show with an audience of one.

It was all done for (and mostly by) Donald J. Trump.

[txlawyer]

@ralph_vonholst

You think [the laptop] will distract the jury and lead them astray in some way?

Distract, yes. Lead them astray. probably not. They will get to where they’re going one way or another, but the court does not need to pre-dig any rabbit holes. Put the exhibits on a file cart and make the jurors dig through it when they have questions about what’s in evidence.

[leftcoaster]

Did Trump object?

Per Kyle Cheney

It does appear possible for Merchan to furnish the jury with a copy of the instructions unless Trump objects:

ETA

[txlawyer]

@jonney_5

Lawyers are supposed to represent their clients to the best of their ability correct?

We – meaning those of us who are not court-appointed – get to choose who we represent. Blanche et al. chose to beclown themselves, and now they are fixing to get underbussed for the effort.

[stradivarius50t3]

@ralph_vonholst

Do violas use catgut?

Baroque and earlier versions of fiddles use gut strings (actually now nylon).

[llwillis]

Seems ludicrous that everyone else in the world can read the jury instructions, but the jury cannot and has to have them read back.

[godwit]

It’s 9:34 a.m., and Trump is back at the defense table, a much smaller entourage behind him. I see Eric Trump, and Alina Habba as well I believe, as well as real estate investor Steve Witkoff, per Trump’s campaign.

Law and Order doesn’t really cover this: does the defendant (and attorneys and judge) need to just sit in the courtroom until there is a verdict?

[demyankee]

@lastroth

A river, creek, or storm channel is stationary.

The river Meander would like a word…

[alyoshakaramazov1]

Or, take it from Garp: “The chances of another plane hitting this house are astronomical. See, it’s been pre-disastered.”

The world according to Garp

[lastroth]

So let me ask how many times has the River Meander changed course in 24 hours? Hmm

[leftcoaster]

Good question -yesterday they stayed in the courthouse. Trump had a room in the building -a holding area- where he retired. But before he left the courtroom, his attorney asked permission from Merchan.

[Hatmama]

The young woman that carries the printer and the stack of scrapbooks she makes for him with all the glowing, adoring messages they elicit from his favorite media sources and his fan clubs, including the 8 x 10 glossies of women crying over his fate outside the courthouse.

[jonney_5]

@txlawyer

@ralph_vonholst

You think [the laptop] will distract the jury and lead them astray in some way?

Distract, yes. Lead them astray. probably not. They will get to where they’re going one way or another, but the court does not need to pre-dig any rabbit holes. Put the exhibits on a file cart and make the jurors dig through it when they have questions about what’s in evidence.

Are the jury allowed to hear/read testimony together? This could simply be jurists with notes and other jurist wanting to re-haer based on the discussion. “Oh I missed that” sort of thing.