Jury Convictions Of Bannon And Navarro May Energize Lawmakers’ Ability To Hold Powerful People Accountable

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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1474185

I have said this from the first days of the administration of TFG, now currently out on bail:

The people making money hand over FRIST in his administration will be the lawyers – criminal lawyers, “constitutional lawyers,” prosecutors, appellate court lawyers, and so on. The lawyering goes on forever, and so does the passing of money. This does not make me feel good about this country. But it could always be worse: fighting out our differences with guns.

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“Both Republican and Democratic administrations have subsequently claimed that, due to executive privilege and other separation of powers concerns,…”
Yes there are separation of powers but there is also balance of powers, which makes one branch hold another one accountable, esp. when breaking the law.

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Maybe both of these schmucks can have their convictions voided by just firetrucking dropping dead while the convictions are under appeal.

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Now prosecute Gym Jordon for same. Nobody is above the law.

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Good FRIST but you need this, too.

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“will be the LAWYERS”
“fighting … with GUNS”
“AND so on”
“passing of MONEY”

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OT. By Susanne Craig. Of interest not only for its subject, the way RFK, Jr. has parlayed his family name and his own reputation as an environmental lawyer into millions of dollars of unearned wealth (if by “earned,” anything of substance is connoted), but also for the window it opens onto some ways the wealthy professional and business classes often operate to increase their members’ personal wealth. (Btw, in this context include in “professional class” people like college and university presidents, Hollywood celebrities…)

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But the tigers come at night.

The Social Gospel, recently used in the successful UAW strike, may be the ‘new’ answer. I like the angle and the odds. The rest is just more of the same.

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'Tis a little early in the morning here for Warren Zevon:

And I’m hiding in Victoria
I’m a desperate woman
Send lawyers, guns, and money
The shit has hit the fan

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I forget… what branch is it that is holding SCOTUS accountable? And, really, we do seem to have forever to not hold them accountable, as they are there for their lives… Truly a pitiful thought.

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Why is it taking so long for Bannon’s appeal to be decided? It’s now 16 months after sentencing. Is it a full court docket and they’re just now getting around to it? Is this normal?

I know it’s a high profile case with important consequences, but more than a year to settle an appeal seems like denial of justice for the government’s case.

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The House committee that requested the information from Bannon and Navarro has disbanded, so the two criminal cases will not be supplying it with any new information.

So TRUMP and anti-democracy won. These convictions are just the cost of doing business. Investigators never learned what they needed to. The worst crimes and worst offenders are probably still unknown to us. And they can try again, because they know the right cutouts will make them unreachable in the future.

It is very weak tea trying to persuade me that this represents a win. It does not. It is shameful and disgusting. Omerta wins.

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Counterpoint: Everyone under our system of government has a right to avoid self-incrimination, or testimony that incriminates others. It has always been up to the justice system to prove its case, and sometimes that does run into the brick wall of Omerta.

At least in these two cases, there are actual penalties that Bannon and Navarro will suffer if they lose their appeal, due to the contempt of Congress citation. That’s not always the case when a witness to a crime clams up.

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Not a cat, but. We are used to does and fawns in our yard (the bane of our garden), but this 3-point buck’s visit this morning was a first (as far as we know). He soon lay down for over an hour in the copse that is background in this photo. Mr. mch figured Mr. Buck was exhausted from a night of mating. If so, he was soon at it again. He left to pursue a doe, probably one of the deer who was a regular in our yard all summer.

Buck 11:19:23

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When quantum computing demolishes traditional cryptography, are you going to change your security techniques, or are you going to maintain that process trumps outcomes?

The legal system is failing America, full stop. No series of pyrrhic victories or day-late-dollar-short victories can possibly change that.

I shouldn’t be surprised: the only thing lawyers practice is how to hunt their wealthy patrons’ favorite prey.

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I thought that the tigers come out at night because that’s when the freaks come out?

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Would that desperate woman be the Queen? I heard she was seen with a London werewolf at Trader Vic’s drinking a pina colada. His hair was perfect.

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I think the blatant way in which Bannon and Navarro asserted privilege helped the courts to smack them down. They didn’t even bother to show up at the hearings, but also didn’t bother to try to get the subpoenas quashed. And then also didn’t bother to provide evidence that they had meaningful claims of privilege – it was essentially “because I say so”.

There may be more i-dotting and t-crossing in such situations in the future, even from republicans.

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Stay focused lastroth! What, were you out slummin’ last night?

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