Judges Reach Dueling Conclusions In Fight Over Abortions During Emergencies

Over the last 48 hours, federal judges have split on a fundamental question determining when doctors have to perform abortions amid medical emergencies, a dispute that could reach the Supreme Court.  


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1430199

I get that women’s health care is now no longer a medical issue, but a legal issue, however at what point do we require the judges making these decisions to have at least a modicum of medical training before getting involved in these decisions?

We already know that SCOTUS has no training and, yes, they will most likely be making the final decision for all of us, without understanding anything of what they are deciding or the impact of said decisions.

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Straight to the shadow docket for a 6-3 opinion supporting the Texas decision and enjoining the Idaho decision. A win-win moving us one step closer to both fetal personhood and elimination of the administrative state.

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It’s still very much a medical issue. The argle bargle and political jiggery pokery can continue apace, but women’s lives and health will still be at risk and it’s highly unethical to deliberately exacerbate that risk through legal fabulism grounded in medical and scientific ignorance.

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ok, guys…when it is illegal for people to get organ transplants etc., then your anti-abortion stance can be acceptable…after all, organ transplants are also interfering in GODS plan…you have a sick heart, liver, lung etc.,so it is acceptable to remove that sick organ…whats the difference in removing a sick fetus?

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There’s no point in going over once again how we wound up with a SCOTUS which wants to eliminate women’s repro rights. It includes this country’s distaste for a woman president and the growing power and influence of The Federalist Society. It’s going to own us in the near future.

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Of course, it is, but the media are reporting mostly the legal over the medical issue. And until women and men stand up and say enough, after Dobbs, the legal will outweigh the medical.

We are beginning to stand up, but we need to stand AND push back. Getting a Democratic Congress will certainly help.

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Because the organ by itself will never be able to sustain itself separate from the body. A fetus may or may not have a chance to sustain itself, depending on how far along it is.

My hairdresser recently gave birth at 31 weeks back in June. The baby is home now, but not after weeks of NICU care. By himself, he might not’ve survived, but he has, with an enormous amount of help at MN Children’s.

I suppose that’s the difference?

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already seeing the results of the anti people. with the closing of Plannned parenthood facilities, many women/girls no longer have a facility they can to for normal GYN health care…no more PAP smears…no more mammograms…or GYN care…many will die of cancers at that are easily detected and treated.

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It’s appropriate you’re number one (with no boasting, better still) because you’ve summed up the dilemma women of childbearing age face. Aunt Lydia Comey-Barrett says adoption is the answer, not knowing that 600 women a year die during childbirth. Her agenda for many years has been to do away with the “abomination of abortion”, she lied as did all the nominees to SCOTUS about their opinions on abortion, and we the people are worse off for their lies under oath.

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Is it that she doesn’t know or that she doesn’t care to know or that she doesn’t care, period? This is where the legal outweighs the medical. Her agenda is to not care, as long as her religious view is codified. That’s the agenda.

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With this Court science and logic take a back seat to the majority’s sincerely held religious beliefs, while making those beliefs the law of the land does not constitute the establishment of a religion. Because they say so.

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So if I understand this right, the texas judge is saying it’s OK to prosecute doctors who perform abortions in a health emergency as long as there’s a chance a jury will find them not guilty?

No wonder even walmart is funding employee travel for abortions. (Albeit only the ones on their health plan, and with copays…)

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That deserves a….

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Meanwhile, the horror stories will continue piling up because biology doesn’t care about these legal maneuvers. It’s going to get to the point where we’re going to see a new version of the AIDS Quilt for women who died unnecessarily.

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Just remember that the corrupted court voted 6-3 to allow freaks like this to deny women their right to an abortion.

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I wish I could be surprised.

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I’m very surprised he’s not a “pastor” or a youth minister.

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“BREAKING: Idaho Judge Rejects Cupping Therapy, Female Hysteria, and Four-Humors Theory.”

(“Texas Judge Counters with Opinion Blaming Illnesses on Evil Spirits ‘Or Possibly Magical Bears’.”)

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