Johnson Tries To Avoid McCarthy's Fate In First Speakership Showdown Of New Congress

In opposition, sure. But as Speaker, Jeffries becomes a target. He becomes “The Democrat” the media can point to and say ‘why aren’t you getting anything done?’ so they don’t piss Trump off. And we’ve seen them already bending over backwards to curry favor and not piss Trump off. And he’s not even President yet.

You really think they won’t spend 2 years blaming Hakeem Jeffries and House Democrats? You really think the American people are discerning, critical thinkers who won’t believe whatever the fuck they’re told?

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All the Kool Kids think the Earth is flat and vaccines kill you.

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That’s precisely why the R’s will make their performative gestures against Johnson, but will never allow Jeffries to be voted Speaker as long as they have the numbers to prevent it. The Speaker has too much power over which bills can come to the floor for a vote.

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RIght. So once Jeffries is Speaker, the Rs never need to defend ‘why isn’t X coming to a vote?’, they just blame Jeffries and publically demonize everything he does bring as ‘the woke liberal agenda’.

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Do House rules carry over? Regardless the new Speaker, will a single member still be able to pull a “Gaetz” and demand a vote on retaining a sitting Speaker?

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Unless the new Congress changes them, yes. They get to change whatever they want, if they have the votes.

That’s why they want Chip Roy running the Rules Committee.

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No matter what happens republicans will blame dems anyways.

“Democrats didn’t help us pass giant tax cuts for billionaires! Why do they hate America?”

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Johnson is claiming to be bringing a new rules package that will require 9 republicans to put forward a motion declaring the chair empty. So he’s trying to avoid that. We’ll find out whether he succeeds.

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Johnson is saying he’s making zero deals for votes, probably because nobody is standing up as an alternative. So he’s not actually at risk. It’s just a question of how much drama the R’s want before they elect him again. I’m starting to think he might be elected on the first vote.

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Yeah, but I’m not talking about the Republicans there.

I’m talking about the media. And the media will have a much harder time blaming Dems if Republicans have all the ‘I control shit’ jobs.

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Maybe, but McCarthy sounded pretty confident before the first vote, too.

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Mor tax cuts to supercharge the economy to heights never seen! To pull us out of the Harris depression! There will be no more soup lines!

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But also more tariffs to put us into a recession. Because workers have been getting too uppity.

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A return to the glory days of “A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.” The best depression ever.

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Oligarchy at best. Dictatorship at worst.

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We need to turn out the clock on the Republicans. Every day we delay their disastrous proposals the better. ( Late edit.)

The outcome of this depends on how much Johnson does not want Roy to be head of the Rules Committee.

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You can always count on Kilmeade for stupid takes.

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No one who would ever vote Democratic is going to much care what they say.

But it is not going to happen because the GOP have too much vanity to let it happen.

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We can delay them just fine in opposition. Unless the Senate nukes the filibuster, they can’t just ram shit through there (and if they do, then we’re not putting it back). And in the House, they’ve demonstrated that they can’t get their shit together no matter what.

But giving the media Jeffries, so they can blame him, and blame ‘the Democrats’ for everything for two years? That hurts our chances to take back the House.

Plenty of people who voted Democratic in 2020 seem to have cared what the constant media circus told them about Joe being too old and the economy being bad even though objective measures said otherwise.

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If Jeffries were somehow elected, I’ll be laughing myself silly for at least a day. Of course, Jeffries will immediately face a Motion to Vacate the Chair, which he will lose because the abyssal embarrassment of having the Minority Leader elected Speaker through their own incompetence will force the GQP to get their (literal, not figurative) shit in a pile.

Note that this is entirely different from a group of GOP so-called ‘moderates’ bolting to ally with the Democratic Caucus to elect a quasi sane House leadership. That is something that would be under actual consideration if anyone who actually is a GOP ‘moderate’ existed. There are no such animals, and so the only way Jeffries becomes (temporary) Speaker is by GQP incompetence.

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