Jan. 6 Was ‘Deplorable,’ Meadows’ Lawyer Argues, But That Doesn’t Change Anything

The law is clear that executive privilege does not extend to discussions relating to non-governmental business or among private citizens.126 In In re Sealed Case (Espy), 121 F.3d 729, 752 (D.C. Cir. 1997), the court explained that the presidential communications privilege covers ‘‘communications authored or solicited and received by those members of an immediate White House adviser’s staff who have broad and significant responsibility for investigating and formulating the advice to be given the President on the particular matter to which the communications relate.’’ The court stressed that the privilege only applies to communications intended to advise the President ‘‘on official government matters.’’

In United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683, 703–16 (1974), the Supreme Court recognized an implied constitutional privilege protecting presidential communications. The Court held though that
the privilege is qualified, not absolute, and that it is limited to communications made ‘‘in performance of [a President’s] responsibilities of his office and made in the process of shaping policies and making decisions.’’

‘‘[I]t is the new President [not his predecessor] who has the information and attendant duty of executing the laws in the light of current facts and circumstances,’’ and ‘‘the primary, if not the exclusive’’ duty of deciding when the need of maintaining confidentiality in communications ‘‘outweighs whatever public interest or need may reside in disclosure.’’ Dellums v. Powell, 561 F.2d 242, 247 (D.C. Cir. 1977).

In United States v. Reynolds, 345 U.S. 1, 7–8 (1953), the Supreme Court held that executive privilege: [B]elongs to the Government and must be asserted by it; it can neither be claimed nor waived by a private party. It is not to be lightly invoked. There must be a formal claim of privilege, lodged by the head of the department which has control over the matter, after actual personal consideration by that officer.

Committee on the Judiciary v. McGahn, 415 F. Supp.3d 148, 214 (D.D.C. 2019) (and subsequent history) (‘‘To make the point as plain as possible, it is clear to this Court for the reasons explained above that, with respect to senior-level presidential aides, absolute immunity from compelled congressional process simply does not exist.’’); Committee on the Judiciary v. Miers, 558 F. Supp.2d 53, 101 (D.D.C. 2008) (holding that White House counsel may not refuse to testify based on direction from the President that testimony will implicate executive privilege).

In Nixon v. GSA, the Supreme Court again considered issues related to executive privilege and balanced the important interests served by the Presidential Records Act against the intrusion into presidential confidentiality caused by compliance with the Act.133 Thus, a valid claim of executive privilege presumes that the information sought to discovered is confidential and that the need to maintain that confidentiality outweighs the interests promoted by disclosure.

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It would be unjust to refer such an official for prosecution before a court even has a chance to pass upon the merits of their claims.”

“History and the law teach that

Nixon’s minions testified before congress.

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As I said, ill-defined and nebulous.

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Moe, as in the owner of Moe’s Tavern.

Yeah but that insecure private partisan recount didn’t and couldn’t change any votes but it did suggest that Biden had neen cheated of that number of votes.

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Makes the decision by Pence to not evacuate the Capitol grounds all the more significant and potentially ominous.

If, “for everyone’s safety”, all the politicians had been evacuated (rank-and-file did end up at some offsite armory in the area for a period of time) and the Capitol itself now unaccessible, starts to make the case they wanted to push the certification past the required day, opening up more chances for shenanigans.

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But they’ve debugged now the process and the next run should go much smoother. More state-level electoral vote theft, fewer unruly Capitol protesters.

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They’ll bring their own antifa to fight with.

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They manufacture “controversy” and then change laws because of controversy. Same.

Arsonist-firefighters, all of them.

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In the absence of Mike Pence sitting there as President of the Senate, the position just gets filled by the President Pro Tempore. On January 6, that was still Chuck Grassley, who voted against all the objections to the swing seat electors and who probably wasn’t read into the plan to have Pence reject those slates himself. Removing Pence from the Capitol would not have halted the proceeding.

And as long as we’re arguing counter-factual circumstances, what happens if Pence does go along with the anti-certification plot? Nancy Pelosi simply declares the House in recess until noon on January 20, at which point neither Trump nor Pence continue to hold office and the vote counting can resume. I’d guess that President Pelosi’s term in office would last all of a few hours before Biden gets sworn in.

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Terwilliger’s Monday letter to the committee was issued a day after the committee released a 51-page contempt of Congress report, detailing its case against Meadows

Not bad for weekend work. Which once again brings up the question, WHO IS PAYING TERWILLIGER?

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and codified in law…

Not to mention the four federal judges in D.C. who disagree with you.

No disagreement that it wasn’t likely to have worked. But they certainly thought that something was going to work.

And a NG deployment w/martial law was a key part of that plan.

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They might be able to steal a state if it’s roughly as close as Florida 2000, but they have not enacted any laws allowing any state legislature to appoint the electors if they don’t like how the election turned out. Any such law would have to be in place before Election Day per the Electoral Count Act. Passing a new law after the election won’t get the job done.

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Yes, the lack of Antifanistas definitely made the game less sporting.

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Trump is given to a lot of wishful thinking
He was emotionally abused by his Father which may account for his whipped puppy attraction to ‘strongmen.’ He has spent most of his life surrounded by yes men that he owned who scurried to do his bidding if he so much as yawned.

The job of politics is handling differences of opinion in an adult manner. Only the dregs would be as obsequious as he wanted so he was only able to hire the dregs.

So nobody could tell him that it wasn’t apt to go the way he thought it would.

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Apropos of nothing, seeing Meadows makes me think of Walter Donovan about halfway through his Grail mishap…

I’ll bet what happened is that the WH inner circle was told by the Oath Keepers that Antifa would show up, and the inner circle took them at their word, didn’t bother to look at any intel. That would be on the same level of brilliant planning as the rest of the clown show.

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Didn’t both GA and AZ pass laws that allow the legislatures to override election results if they deem it necessary, no courts involved, etc?

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More a matter of laying the groundwork so that something, anything might work. It’s like Underpants Gnomes levels of strategery.

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