Jan. 6 Committee Warns Meadows Risks Criminal Contempt Referral If He Keeps Stonewalling

Jan. 6 committee chair Bennie Thompson (D-MS) and vice chair Liz Cheney (R-WY) on Tuesday warned former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows that he will be referred for criminal contempt if he fails to show up for his deposition on Wednesday.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1397272

OT, now zooming out to more global matters. Does your brain have the bandwidth for all this? Mine is struggling. Time for some puppy videos.

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These depositions usually are scheduled for 10:00AM. IIRC, on Bannon’s they waited until 10:05 to start the criminal referral process.

Also, I will remind folks that once a federal indictment is issued you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The trial will proceed regardless of who controls congress over the next few years. Meadowmuffins will probably be making some calls tonight. If the committee is smart, they’ll answer one call, once. Then set their voicemail greeting to “It’s 10:00AM. Do you know where your liberty is?”

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If you really wanna start binging on Everclear, scribbling goodbyes, and looking for overhead beams strong enough to support your weight, contemplate what happens when the PRC finally invades Taiwan.

(Or, better still, don’t.)

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But that all changed on Tuesday morning, when Terwilliger told the committee in a letter that Meadows’ feathers were apparently ruffled by the committee’s treatment of Meadows “executive privilege” defense.

Am I not correct in remembering that the only person who can claim “executive privilege” or that something is protected by “executive privilege” is the sitting POTUS? And POTUS #46 is not claiming “executive privilege”.
Meadows “walk like a man, not a muffin”.

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that the Select Committee has no intention of respecting boundaries concerning Executive Privilege

So Meadows is too lazy to say “I assert my 5th amendment right not to incriminate myself” 346 times?

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That should be the rule for all unexcused failures to appear going forward frankly. Everyone has been warned and everyone knows what the game is so no reason to delay or compromise: the only way out is through.

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Now it’s become obvious that this was just another delay tactic.
When are the good guys going to realize this, and will that be too late?

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They’ve stated today that if meadowmuffins doesn’t show up to tomorrow’s deposition they will start the criminal referral process tomorrow. Third sentence of the article.

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This jerk-off keeps trying to have it both ways. Time to put a stop to this nonsense. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

“As a result of careful and deliberate consideration of these factors, we now must decline the opportunity to appear voluntarily for a deposition,” Terwilliger wrote."

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Someone thought they heard Terwilliger menacingly murmur he hoped Meadows wouldn’t have to ‘go down there and confront any inquisitors by slapping them around with his hard-earned-Associates-Degree-educated-opinion of his circumstances’.

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I don’t know why he doesn’t just show up and plead the 5th on every question. Maybe he’s gambling on SCOTUS holding up his privileged communication objections? Pretty big gamble though. I don’t think Meadows could handle a month or two in the slammer like Bannon.

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The House and DOJ need to just indict this SOB for criminal contempt.

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They first have to give him a deadline for him to miss, and the the indictment will be served.

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In days of yore, Markie might have been drawn and quartered and broken on the wheel.
I’m willing to settle for just broken on the wheel.

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Hmmmm…literally just having a change of government here in Germany (measured in hours now), so we’ll see. We knew how Merkel felt about Nord Stream and Russia, not sure about Scholz and his coalition partners.

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In all my years of lawyering, I have always understood that privilege cannot be used to shield criminal activity. The one exception is the spousal privilege. Even the attorney-client privilege is subject to the crime-fraud exception. So, why would the executive privilege, a creation of the common law (i.e., the court), and not statute or an explicit constitutional provision (the courts say the privilege, in part, is rooted in the constitution, specifically, the separation of powers), be any different?

Here’s a good law review article on the subject:

https://www.cornelllawreview.org/2020/05/15/executive-privilege-with-a-catch-how-a-crime-fraud-exception-to-executive-privilege-would-facilitate-congressional-oversight-of-executive-branch-malfeasance-in-accordance-with-the-constitutio/

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Trump is a norm destroyer. Prior to Trump, many interrelations with colleagues and associates in politics were governed by serious-but-not-statute rules called mores.

Trump stopped that and there is this:

In order to start to return with mores again, trust and common respect between people are required and no single person has so alienated his fellow Americans against each other more than Trump.

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In all your years of lawyering, are you aware of any successful invocations of the crime fraud exception (against the one claiming privilege)? The problem with the crime fraud exception to executive privege, is that one usually has to pierce the privilege to show that a crime has occurred.

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I’m sure Mr Meadows is operating under the longstanding principle that all rich, white, American males have the same God-given rights and privileges afforded to any corporate executive.

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