In A Post-Roe World, Republicans Could Come For DC’s Abortion Rights

With the Supreme Court poised to overturn Roe v. Wade, many have already started scratching out the calculus to determine where abortion access will be protected, and where it’s endangered. 


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1420808

Five states, with a total of 10 Senators, have smaller populations than DC.

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Sure they’ll come for DC. Once Roe is killed it won’t stop there. It will start there. Abortion drugs, birth control and sex toys are going to be ruled on by Amy’s Court. Yesterday the Court said it’s OK to give religious schools public money. That’s obviously not what our Founders ( who did live in an America like Amy wants to build ) wanted. It doesn’t stop there. The Court will, in time, give the Christian Church power over us all.

Sit back, buckle up…here it comes.

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This argument has been repeated endlessly and I will continue to repeat it:

The Democrats have no one to blame but themselves. They’ve had 40 - 50 years and more than a few very popular Presidents during which time much of this could’ve been codified. Not just abortion, but all the rest. One could argue that ‘settled law’ actually meant something before this century, but it no longer does, I think we can agree on this.

My late mother and her also late best friend used to discuss this about government back in the 70s, when they were both vibrant healthy women - the pendulum will eventually swing the other way. We are on that path now and I see very little to stop what’s coming. There just isn’t enough interest outside of the maniac Right wing to stop this.

The sane people of the country on all sides have slept far too long and, now that we’re awake, the takeover is well in hand.

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Oh dear Lord.

And it’s all Ukraine’s fault that Russia is invading them.

And the kids in Uvalde should’ve done something.

And and and and and.

Fuck this blaming the fucking victim all the fucking time. Gets really tiresome.

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Off topic but definitely related to the continuance of the death march initiated by the Republican Party leadership and its followers:

I hope SC citizens push back hard and challenge this state law, but I guess not if they watch Fox network. But there is light ahead:

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The Senate from its inception has been and was intended to be the defender of America’s monied interests.
We won’t grow up to become a real democracy until it is abolished or like The House of Lords, nuetered.

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Not being Christian I am a little puzzled abut which c

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Let’s try that again. Not being Christian I am curious as to which Christian denomination gets to make this decision. My school taught that this is the fundamental issue which led to the Mayflower coming to the US. How do they ignore that aspect of our history?

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Nobody’s ignoring it. It’s just rarely taught in schools that the puritans were absolute assholes who wanted to discriminate against other people which is why nobody liked them in England, so they came here to be free to discriminate and be assholes.

And we’ve held true to that legacy ever since.

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One of the reasons that the Catholic Church started building schools was that the public schools (of the 19th and 20th centuries) were using the King James Bible for their morning prayers. There was also A LOT of anti-Catholic discrimination. Today, I’d be far more concerned with some Fundie school filling a child’s head with ridiculous notions like Creationism and the state being forced to fund it.

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The one that controls the Supreme Court, obviously.

So, the Roman Catholic Church. Life is full of little ironies like that, kind of like feta cheese in a Greek salad.

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I’m not saying that’s wrong, but Catholics have been big in education for a lot longer than since the 19th C. The Jesuits date to the 16th C and the Christian Brothers (De La Salle version) go back to the 17th C.

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Really? What presidents? Because I can’t find any in this time frame. No one. Of the three.

If you are going to blame anyone to the center/left of the Republican party, then blame the mostly white, privileged ones who pretended there were no differences between Al Gore and George W. Bush, or whose lofty principles precluded them from voting for the email lady. How many Supreme Court justices did that cost us?

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See that’s the hell hole that the SC justices have now opened. There will be fights over giving public monies to the fringier religions, and then once that dust settles battles over which denomination will reign supreme.
It will lead to an interesting experiment if sending one’s child to a religious school will create a larger percentage of followers, or if as in the past with Catholic schools led to less enthusiastic followers.
Also how will this effect football in the South, or Midwest?

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And the reason we have a constitutional ban on the establishment of a religion is that the various assholes (Puritans in New England, Quakers in Pennsylvania, Catholics in Rhode Island, Presbyterians, Baptists, etc elsewhere) couldn’t agree about who was going to get to discriminate nationally. [ETA: /snark]

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I think the hive should crowd-source a history textbook for students. They’d actually want to read it

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Already done been done. Howard Zinn, A People’s History of the United States.

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Most of the founders were either agnostics, atheists, or Deists.
They despised the idea of a state religion because of what that idea had done to Europe.

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True enough, but there was a strong admixture of religious nutjobs in there, too. I like your framing better, though.

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