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MAYBE people are beginning to âseeâ that the RW is not looking out for THEM but for themselves and would rather just stay alive.
Forcing Trump to bankrupt and shutdown/furlough the USPS in response, thus making VBM largely a moot point.
The RNC is going to challenge every state that looks to expand vote by mail, that didnât already have such expansions in place. Winning those challenges isnât the point, either. Merely tying it up in Court through November is the point.
It will be the states that suffer both economically and in death counts if Trumpâs lack of leadership, incompetence and indifference are allowed to continue. Maybe some are finally getting that this country is in real trouble and everyoneâs livelihood and health are suffering.
The number of never-Trumpers is increasing, even if people wonât admit it out loud.
Why are you linking the exact article we are commenting on?
Red states can expand Vote by Mail ahead of the election, but the RNC WILL challenge those expansions in court. They have already publicly announced they are planning on spending over $20M on such efforts.
Republican governors and secretaries of state are NOT the RNC. In fact, thatâs kind of the point of this articleâŚthe red states moving forward with expanding the franchise, are doing so against the wishes of the think tanks (who actually have a great deal more influence over the RNC), thus setting up those legal showdowns.
(Oops, not meant to be a reply to you chelsea; STUPID MOUSE FINGER)
âChristian Adams, president of PILFâŚ"
PILF? Do they even check their acronyms before they choose a name? InternetâŚdo your thing.
His missive contended, with scant evidence, that âtwice as manyâ mailed ballots âdisappearedâ in the 2016 presidential election than made up the margin of votes between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
WaitâŚdoes he think Trump should have lost the popular vote by more than he already did? Or is he asserting that the USPS is a liberal deep-state non-part of the government which intentionally âlostâ only Trump votes?
Your comment doesnât support whatâs already happening.
Finished reading your comment, which doesnât help. Exactly what power does the RNC have to do what youâre suggesting?
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/20/michigan-voting-lawsuits-rnc-trump-116142
ReallyâŚ
The point isâŚthat the RNC plans to challenge any moves that will expand the electorate. That will definitely include challenging any lawsâŚand especially moves by states without legislationâŚto expand the Vote By Mail franchise ahead of the 2020 election.
And again, success isnât necessarily the mission. Merely clogging up the courts and getting stays put in place until after November, is the mission.
They have money to hire lawyers. Lots of money to hire lots of lawyers.
If the main objection to mail in voting is fraud ( it isnât itâs voting that theyâre worried about ) then mail in should be the natural choice. If a state goes Vote by Mail it can abandon millions of dollars worth of machinery, poll personal and polling stations. The saved money could be diverted to anti-fraud efforts.
Serial number each ballot with a tear off for the voter to keep.
Mark the ballots so they can be detected at a distance and not confused for any other type of mail.
Provide special drop boxes for ballots in the Post Office and public locations.
Develop software to scan in the ballots and post the SN as received. Post that on a public web page.
Make it clear that any manipulation, removal or alteration of a ballot is a felony with a minimum 5 years in the federal pen ( no parole or early outs there ) PER INCIDENT.
That should cost a fraction of what in person voting costs and provides a âright down to the ballotâ trace.
Yeah, well, weâll see how that works out.
Competing charges of voter fraud? Hilarious. Letâs start by listing actual incidences of voter fraud by both parties. Itâs not like this isnât being addressed by the dems both at the state and federal levels and by Eric Holder and his group.
Again, the point is merely to suppress votes. The legitimacy of the challenges doesnât have to hold up in the long run, they only have to be legitimate enough to get votes not counted or cast in November. They donât need rulings (though getting a few of those with a ton of Trump appointed judges of dubious quality will certainly help their strategy), they just need delays.
Yeah, their lawyers are so competent. 
Whatever. We all have to do what we must do and insure that everyone who can vote is allowed to do so.
If we know that the point is to suppress votes, then that has to be overcome. Do you have any ideas? A plan? Iâm sure people are working on that.
What can we as individuals do?
Frankly, this article is fairly optimistic about mail-in voting. Supression has always been an issue, but it hasnât always worked. Getting more people to vote would certainly help counter it.
RichardâŚperfectly reasonable suggestions. Sadly, Republicans will not listen to any of this. Their aim is always to restrict/diminish the vote and nothing will dissuade them from their voting fraud fantasies.
I do what I can do. In Florida, and my county, we are busily making phone calls every day getting people to sign up for VBM. I think weâve had a 5x increase in VBM sign ups in my county vs 4 years ago. But Florida isnât one of the states at issues here. We have had unrestricted (mostly) VBM for years, its not a new expansion, there is nothing to challenge in the courts.
There will be challenges down the road on things like signatures matches. But weâve already put together a Voter Protection team in our county, and have been training them for months on that, and numerous other issues. The FDP is the first state Democratic party to stand up a statewide Voter Protection team, too.
And yeah, I say âweâ, because as the Vice Chair and Campaign Chair in my county, I have actively been working and implementing these plans and actions for awhile now. While running campaigns to get Democrats elected, of which I won 2 of 3 in March, and already have at least 2 more lined up for November in my county. Iâve won 8 of the 10 races I have run since 2017, in a 70% republican county, so I stay busy.
Do similar things to what I outlined above. Get involved with your local Dems, and get them to take action. Also, donate money to the DNC and Democratic legal groups that will need funding to fight these challenges that are coming.
Yeah, pretty much what I thought. I received this earlier today. Donât know anything about the group, but it certainly is another good step.
Vote from Home 2020
We donât know what November will look like â but we canât risk what happened in Wisconsin just last month happening again. Long lines at polling places with worried voters whose absentee ballots never arrived; while efforts to expand voting by mail before the election are short-circuited by Republican state legislators and conservatives on the Supreme Court. Holding an election in the middle of a pandemic is a recipe for voter disenfranchisement unless we do something about it and expand vote by mail opportunities as soon and as widely as possible.
Thank you for all your efforts!
Iâm not sure I believe that voting by mail favors Dems as is often discussed. It would seem like it would benefit both sides equally.
Exactly. And society can tolerate a tiny (nearly non-existent) amount of ballot fraud to prevent millions of votes from being suppressed. Just like protections in the justice system will set some guilty people free in order to protect the masses from having their rights and freedoms abridged (ideally)