Thursday’s dual Supreme Court decisions on Trump’s financial records were both, in one sense, a loss for the President.
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1319646
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1319646
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At this point, I’m not sure the tax returns would make that big a difference in the election. Voters have so many other reasons to get rid of him.
So, it will be nice to see him lose the election and bring the Republican party down with him … and then get indicted in New York state for tax fraud and/or bank fraud. This isn’t going away. His life just keeps getting worse.
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He lost, period. That means he is a … LOSER, his biggest nightmare. I’m counting the days until resignation.
Also, over at the Fox website, there isn’t one story about the SC decision. Not one. Nor about Covid. No wonder we’re a nation of imbeciles.
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No handwringing here. Nice try, though.
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I like Joyce White Vance’s approach. Characterizing this as a win/loss is kinda facile. We’re in uncharted territory here and it took Trump to cause the system to fail his “unintended” stress test.
Courts have an inherent ability to expedite matters, as
pointed out. SCOTUS gives them a legal roadmap, not a timeline. Trump loses resoundingly on the legal arguments, with 7 justices including 2 he nominated in the majority.
One aspect of the Mazars decision that SCOTUS focuses on is the reason there is no precedent regarding Congressional subpoenas - it’s because every other president has resolved these issues with compromise as opposed to Trump who flatly refuses any Congressional oversight.
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Doesn’t matter. This mango is toast.
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As it becomes clearer to him that he will lose the election expect panic because he knows he will be in court or jail for the rest of his life. He only ran to improve his brand now it’s a punch line.
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Activist judges!
How SCOTUS Let Trump Win — For Now — In The Financial Records Cases
That is the point I have bee trying to make, and people insisted that I was being trolling.
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Sooner or later, you’re heading to another form of Federal housing, Donnie. And you won’t need family visiting hours, because they’ll be right there with you, albeit maybe in a different cellblock.
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A win for tRump’s delay, deny, deflect strategy. Expect SCOTUS to go 9-0 for immediate disclosure when President Biden is in office.
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This mango is toast.
And not just toast – burnt toast!
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Agree here. There will be no quick pre-election knife* for this oversized homunculus. But the accumulated discovery dirt, scorn, and manure heaped upon his political corpse for the next few years will go a long way to destroy Trumpism (and so Cruzism, Cottonism, and Hawleyism) plus the power-mad fortunes of Javanka, Jr. and Eric.
*he seems to be cutting himself anyway in his neo-Confederate rants
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I’m not sure you, I, or anyone can tell what difference the returns would make, only that he made a completely baseless refusal to deliver something Congress has complete authority to acquire from him, one that had to go to the Supreme Court to rule on. Next to his abject supplication to Vladimir Putin, this is the one thing he’s steadfastly refused to make public, and since his loyalty to the former is getting Americans killed, it’s all the more imperative this country finds out what the most compromised politician this side of Benedict Arnold is hiding from us!
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Maybe not SOCTUS, but a Republican Congress would be batshit crazy on anything that might seem improper. I’m sure they’ll be making shit up if they can’t find enough. VOTE!
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Here’s Kayleigh putting both rulings in the win column:
I look forward to her finally putting a sock in it.
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An argument by the NY D.A. that the American people will be re-offended by delaying any decision against Individual-1 until after November 3 can be made successfully imo.
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I look forward to the leaks…
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I disagree that this is a victory for Trump. Yes it probably postpones disclosure of his taxes until after the election, but if somehow Trump is reelected, his life in the next term is going to be a living hell. Personally I don’t see him making it through the election.
The decisions are really well reasoned and are clearly important for the future of our democracy.
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Trump did not win. Everyone (OK, not everyone, but most lawyers) knew the Court was not going to order the immediate production of the documents in either of the cases. In cases like this, it always goes back to the lower court to apply whatever standard the Court sets out.
In the New York case, they said that, with respect to private matters, the president stands on the same footing as any other subject of a subpoena. In the Congress case, it set out a four-part balancing test, which will guide lower courts from here on out in balancing the duties and powers of Congress with the duties and powers of the presidency. It helps the Congress by clarifying what it needs to do with respect to subpoenas. It’s a good thing.
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