House Passes $1.9 Trillion Stimulus Plan As Dems Seek Workaround For Minimum Wage Hike | Talking Points Memo

The House passed President Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus plan early Saturday, advancing a pandemic aid package that would provide billions of dollars in relief to help financially-strapped families and businesses, support schools, and bolster COVID-19 vaccine distribution. 


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Why are the Dems playing by the rules? The other side ALWAYS cheats. One side is always going to win.

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As usual, the GQP ignores the public and votes against what the American people want and deserve.

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The GOP picks up where it left off with Obama: zero support for a bill that addresses urgent needs and enjoys wide popularity in the country. How is it that people continue to elect these individuals who clearly have no interest in governing?

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They are not interested in governing, even when they are in control, much less sharing in governance. Their base cares nothing about policy, only grievance.

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$1.9E12 / 3.3E8 people = $6000 per person. For some, too little, for others, too much, for the rest, just right.

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Republicans:

Refuse to negotiate on needed relief.

whine that you are being excluded from the process.

Vote en masse against bill.

Bitch about a Democrat bailout slush fund wish list shoved through in the middle of the night.

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  1. They are people who are predisposed to believing in and accepting absurdities.
  2. Their priorities are vested in their grievances.
  3. A zero sum mind set.
  4. Racism

I’m betting that’s 80-90% of it.

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They clearly have no interest in being governed, especially when everbody is governed by the same rules.

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Because they want to institutionalize the racism and bigotry of their base.

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“Owning the libs” makes up the other 10 to 20 %.

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They vote against it because they don’t want Biden to succeed. It’s that simple.

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They don’t know how to govern.
But they are eager to rule.

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" The Senate is split evenly, and the effective majority party is using reconciliation to pass legislation while circumventing the filibuster. The Senate parliamentarian blocks something that party wants to pass and infuriates its members. The parliamentarian, usually an obscure position, comes under intense scrutiny and even calls to be fired.

Sound familiar?

The year is 2001 and Republicans are livid with two rulings from the parliamentarian that made it more difficult for the GOP to get then-President Bush’s proposed tax cuts and budget passed.

First, parliamentarian Robert Dove said Republicans could only go through reconciliation for one, not a series, of tax bills. Then, he said the budget package could not be passed through reconciliation if it included $5 billion to deal with natural disasters.

So, Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MI) fired him."

Just fire the parliamentarian. Play some hardball for the American people. The R’s would and have done it to achieve their ends. No need to handicap ourselves.

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Off topic, but representative of “the problem of the GOP”.

He’s from AZ, btw.

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Not sure what you mean here. There are a hundred Senators, 50 per party. The GOOPers appear intent to vote as a block against the relief bill, though we haven’t yet heard from Murkowski and one or two others. The “rules” require a majority (why do I have to explain this?) which can only be obtained by relying on the VP if the vote ends in a tie.

So, where do you believe the Dems should go from here? If they fire the Parliamentarian and overrule her finding (Josh Marshall today says he’s not sure she can be overruled) and include the $15 min wage, they lose – because Manchin and Sinema say they won’t vote for it if the min wage is included. How, exactly, do the Dems avoid playing by these rules?

We live in a Republic, where voters vote (when they’re allowed to) for Senators. It’s true, that the 50 Dem Senators were elected by way more than the 50 GOOP Senators, but until we can get a majority to change those rules, we’re bound by them.

Right?

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Not one Rethug interested in doing what is right for their constituents. Here they are, the usual lock stop, the Dems are evil and we don’t like not being in control. Seriously, the worst year anyone can imagine and they don’t think people/economies need relief? Now only if a big tax cut for the ultra wealthy were hidden in there on page 854, I’m sure their fragile minds could be changed.

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Owning libs is expensive. They only eat arugula, they will constantly keep you awake with their wokeness, they religiously watch Rachel Maddow so you can forget about watching anything else in that time slot, and they always want to practice their Spanish on you that they just learned on Babel. I tell you, think twice before owning libs, especially just before Easter as pets for the kiddies. You’re liable to end up with a white elephant on your hands, which you would have take to the Humane Society to dispose of, which would expose you to a lot of do-gooder types and lonely people, quite a few of them liberal, which you are wanting to avoid by this point, the burden of owning one having become overly onerous.

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I’ve never heard of the two Dems who voted against. Something wrong with their clockworks?

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