House Impeachment Managers Wrapping Up Case Against Trump | Talking Points Memo

[mec]

You must not have heard about the alternate plot.

[mattinpa]

@drriddle

telling them that it was after Pence, and showing them video of their own frantic evacuation, will reach them emotionally.

I think if they have any understanding of human nature at all they realize that anyone who looked like a member and got caught by the mob would have been in grave danger. They didn’t know Cruz was on their side. It took a pretty deep lack of sophistication to be there in the first place. I agree Pence is not the other the way Pelosi and AOC are, and it makes sense to focus on him. But anyone they caught in business attire that day could have been beaten or worse. Mobs are bad.

[LeeHarveyGriswold]

Malcolm is good with that, but let’s hope it works out better for us.

[mattinpa]

@mec

You must not have heard about the alternate plot.

Right, the one where he kills Duncan and then rules well and wisely from then on, happily ever after, and everyone decides to move on for the sake of unity? Yeah, they workshopped that and it didn’t fly.

[drriddle]

I think it’s actually a big deal that Whitehouse openly said that he thinks members of Congress were working to give the insurrection a chance to succeed. We’ve heard very little talk about that, aside from AOC most have not said anything. There’s no sugarcoating what Whitehouse said…he obviously thinks that some Republicans were, in some way, working to undo the election the same way the insurrectionists were, and that the delay was purposeful. It’s not clear if he thinks they were actually collaborating, or if it was just working towards the same goal of installing Trump as our dictator, but just saying it like that is a big change.

And, if he’s saying that, then he knows something…Whitehouse is very careful in what he says, so there’s something that the public doesn’t know yet about what happened. Again, it may just be that the delay risked all their lives and the Republicans haven’t shown remorse for allowing that to happen. But, I can see the emotion of feeling that the other side would have been fine with you being killed by a mob changing the tone in Congress…it makes the Democrats taking a harder line towards Republicans a lot less surprising. How that plays out, and if it gets all the Democratic Senators onboard with pushing their agenda through despite the Republicans, we’ll have to wait and see.

[ralph_vonholst]

@playitagainrowlf

because it went faster than the others) conviction, the schism should be in full “cliffside falling into the sea” mode.

[LeeHarveyGriswold]

Whew! That was close. Like…Canada close.

[drriddle]

@playitagainrowlf

And finally, since it’s Friday

Uh……I guess it has been a long week.

[ralph_vonholst]

The vehicle occupants survived, btw.

[greysea]

How about the poor guy running ahead of the car? I ain’t joggin’ that road.

[geographyjones]

“Tubby the Tuba”

Aww Burn!

[castor_troy]

@playitagainrowlf

since it’s Friday

You back in Australia or what?

[LeeHarveyGriswold]

I presume after a long recovery and possibly not as well as they would have otherwise.

Testament to modern safety standards and the dedication of first responders.

I used to live in Pacifica, CA where these kinds of slides were common, as was the occasional house falling into the sea.

[coimmigrant]

@drriddle

but [Pence] deserves credit for doing the right thing that day.

I didn’t take the comment to be praise for Pence but more to allow (Castro?) to compare his actions to those of T** and make the statement that “Pence was not a traitor.”

[cervantes]

Diana DeGette is now showing some of the rioters’ greatest hits (no pun intended).

[geographyjones]

Hmm?
Lignite? Bituminous? Anthracite?
Decisions decisions?

[ralph_vonholst]

@LeeHarveyGriswold

Testament to modern safety standards and the dedication of first responders.

Well this was in China so I’ll take door number 2, here.

[kelaine]

@playitagainrowlf

And finally, since it’s Friday and I’m prognosticating…

Careful there @playitagainrowlf. Your Aussie is showing.

Here in America it’s still Thursday.

[drriddle]

@mattinpa

I think if they have any understanding of human nature at all they realize that anyone who looked like a member and got caught by the mob would have been in grave danger.

I’m sure they knew that in the moment, but some of the Republicans may have conveniently convinced themselves that the danger wasn’t really that bad, that the Democrats have overblown it. Yesterday will make it even more clear to them how close the call was. And, that’s the other reason that they focused on the “assassination attempt” on Pence, to make it clear that Republicans would have been targeted as well.

I doubt it changes any minds (maybe a few who can vote without political consequences at best), the Republicans will find an excuse to acquit Trump no matter what…but, inside, at least some of them will understand how fraudulent that vote is, how it shows a lack of character on their part. Who knows what comes out of that.

[playitagainrowlf]

@drriddle

@playitagainrowlf

And finally, since it’s Friday

Uh……I guess it has been a long week.

DOH! I think I’m spending too much time on Zoom calls with my family down in Oz…

(h/t to @kelaine)