House Dems Target Trump’s Effort To Tilt The Playing Field For White GOP Voters | Talking Points Memo

House Democrats proposed a measure Tuesday that would block a Trump administration push to diminish the political power of immigrant communities. The measure was part of a sprawling coronavirus response bill that the House could vote on later this week.


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It is sad when you have to pass laws pre-emptively banning imagined new ways of ratfu*king on the part of White House.

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“Tilt”? If the US was a pinball machine, it would have already exploded from all the GOP tilting.

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This is not Carter versus Ford type politics.

This is fascism and how to get it, any way possible.

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Sometimes, I don’t know why I even read the news.
The anguish unrelenting.

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Journalism is the first draft of history and history will not be kind to Trump and his dictatorial and corrupt ways. He will be a stain on the memory of the nation.

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and sure enough Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) derided the overall House bill — which spans nearly 2,000 pages — as “aspirational legislation” not designed to “deal with reality.”

says the grim reaper who should be terminated permanently at the first chance.

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Trump will likely also allow states to count nonwhites and females of all races as three fifths of a person. Trump will parade around that his lawyer Barr told him non Trump voters aren’t really people.

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The Senate does not at the moment seem interested in taking up additional COVID-19 response legislation, and sure enough Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) derided the overall House bill — which spans nearly 2,000 pages — as “aspirational legislation” not designed to “deal with reality.”

So reality isn’t one party not wanting those people counted, and the other party/chamber of Congress want to protect the process? What next the Republicans won’t want to count any citizen that’s not of voting age? Or how about those that make less than $100K a year? If you have ovaries your vote as half, and if you are darker than ecru 3/5ths?

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Note that the Trump plan is a double whammy. The non-citizens do count in determining how many seats a state gets in the House (per the constitution), but then they get excluded in deciding how to allocate these seats. And there would be nothing to stop the states from deciding that the only people that counted in setting up the districts would be voting age citizens, excluding those under 18.

We do have the best government money can buy.

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From the above, " . . . Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) [derided] the overall House bill — which spans nearly 2,000 pages — as “aspirational legislation” not designed to “deal with reality.”

So I guess the time and effort to produce a 2,000 page document is not through enough for Sen McConnell, and I guess we should expect a more robust piece of legislation aimed at ensuring our elections and the public safety . . . crickets . . . crickets. Look we all know that Sen McConnell is in lockstep with this WH on absolutely ensuring that more Americans die. We see it in their words and we see in the actions of the GOP party where it is in power. They care little for public health and even less for all Americans.

They are not “making America great again” our standing in the world has never been worse in 50 years. We see the divisiveness that the GOP and POTUS create, they have done nothing to change that divide. the election of Judges who are not rated qualified by the ABA, the border policy which seems inhumane to anyone with their eyes open (women in cages, overcrowded cells, lack of medical treatment), their action on civil rights (the end of an entire section of the civil rights policy and law, the selective enforcement of laws on the books), and the economic damage the GOP approach to our economic system delivers (bailouts for farmers because of the tariff policy, tax breaks for everyone, especially those at the top despite its impact on the federal budget, the approach to EPA guidelines, the new Space Force, etc. They are truly terrible at being the leaders of the free world and I know we all wish they would just pack their bags and go home and let the serious people, those that believe in science, those that trust experts, those that respect institutions, and namely those that believe in the rule of law to step up and in.

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That’s exactly what the whole 3/5ths compromise was about. The South wanted slaves counted as whole persons for apportionment purposes (though obviously not for voting or representation purposes), which would vastly increase their numerical advantage in Congress and the Electoral College. Because the slaves weren’t receiving any representation (and racist reasons undoubtedly too), the North didn’t want them counted at all for apportionment purposes. The South refused to go along with 0, so the North compromised to 3/5ths.

The GOP is trying to reinstitute the same basic premise, operating on the assumption that non-citizens living in this country don’t deserve representation, even if they do get counted for apportionment. As I see it, a lot of the reforms of the past century have been trying to provide at least nominal representation to everyone within a district. After all, “taxation without representation” was the big thing in the lead-up to the revolution. Non-citizens pay sales tax, payroll tax, property tax, etc. Even if they don’t have the right to vote, they still deserve to have their interests listened to by the elected representatives.

Allocating representatives purely based on citizens or voting-age citizens would deny representation to anyone outside that demographic and it is anathema to the purported basis for our democracy.

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Apartheid government is their end game.

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It’s doesn’t help that the goddamn Democrats didn’t bother to vote in California’s 25th.

Mitch’s use of the term “aspirational” here feels a bit more tone deaf than usual. Perhaps a prelude to a Will E. Coyote moment, when everyone finally realizes all recent GOP moves are predicated on the desperate “aspiration” to entrench the power they are destined to lose. One can hope.