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Let’s make sure they reap what they have sown.

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So for all the argument about ‘it’s settled law’, no it’s not.

Thanks to the fools in 2016, we now can lawfully carry a concealed weapon without cause, but can’t get a medical procedure done. At all.

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Conservatives have thoroughly demolished following precedent that a future Court should feel no need to follow this ruling.

Extra credit if that Court opinion includes the following phrase:

Roe Dobbs was also egregiously wrong and on a collision course with the Constitution from the day it was decided.

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And rip what they have sewn. (Feeble attempt at humor, don’t ask me why)

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Three whammies from this horrid court . . . So far.

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They leave Wisconsin out of trigger laws. Although there are “exceptions”, they require three doctors to agree on them and the way it is worded is so far removed from current medical knowledge as to be difficult to meet at best.

In addition to the 179 year old law, there’s also this -

A reproductive health researcher in Wisconsin previously told Wisconsin Public Radio that getting an abortion in Wisconsin is more difficult than in other states because of state laws, including a 24-hour waiting period and a high-profile law former Republican Gov. Scott Walker signed banning all non-emergency abortions after 20 weeks of gestation.

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Well, at least I have the right to conceal carry right outside their homes.

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Exactly. Stare decisis should, in a future, saner reality, have absolutely zero merit for anything emanating from the Roberts court.

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The political question is will this affect the effect of “one issue” voters on elections.

Republicans have mostly built their coalition on one issue non-economic voters, God, Guns, Gays, RACE (above all else), and abortion. While among all voters most if not all of the positions Republicans represent on these issues are minority positions. However, among those who vote on these issues or one of these issues alone, all of them have been a big winner for Republicans.

So the question is will overturning Roe cause people who otherwise would support Republicans to vote for Democrats?

We will find out.

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Somebody get a microphone in front of Susan Collins. The nation wants to know the level of her concern over Kavanaugh’s vote.

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The dog has caught the car on the last one. Now, they need to find a new cause.

At the same time, I have to wonder what the left and center will do. This is a big loss for privacy and medical capability. Will anyone care enough to make this an issue and can this issue be an influence on further elections?

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I guess a Handmaiden’s Tale wasn’t cautionary fiction after all. It was a primer for the America of the very near future.

Folks we all have to vote like our very lives depend on it, because they do.

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Agreed, but the court will be with us for decades. Voting isn’t going to be the entire answer.

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It’s pretty much the leaked draft.

  • Not mentioned in the Constitution
  • Not based on history and tradition
  • Easy to drop off unwanted babies
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Some of the tech people have been warning for a while that this is going to be particularly bad in a surveillance state. Remember those marketers who thought they could figure out when you were pregnant? Their data is going to be funneled directly to law enforcement in red states. Or perhaps just to doxxers.

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Biden will make a statement @12:30

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With the even worse stuff in Thomas’s concurrence.

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Why not Brown or Loving too, you f*cking insurrentionist?

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While referenced in the main topic - I believe that this must be seen in all of its hideous bluntness - the draconian vision that totalitarian police-state craving Thomas aspires to achieve
He ain’t tap-dancing around the subject - he craves a rolling back of freedoms - to a society that conforms to his strident views - not your - or mine or the majority’s
He aims to cancel - rights to contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage
because their very existence offends his personal sensibilities - he wants to destroy the idea of an individual having freedoms to do as they please - and he seeks to impose restrictions that will make sure that individuals are not permitted to do things that displease him (and strident conservatives like him)

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