Hanukkah Stabber Faces Multiple Federal Hate Crimes Charges | Talking Points Memo

Grafton Thomas, who is accused of stabbing multiple orthodox Jews at a Hanukkah party outside of New York City Saturday night, now faces multiple federal hate crimes charges.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1282048

I’m guessing he has some mental health issues in addition to the legal problems he now has.

I have personally had Hasidic landlords that were outright con-men, thieves, liars, and received sexual favors from black women tenants I knew personally. Hasidic Jews are the greatest consumers of prostitutes in NYC outside of Manhattan. If you don’t already know that, try speaking to someone outside your caste.

Your religion does not make you a good person, in fact, it often enables and justifies ugly treatment, theft, and abuse to those outside that religion. I can readily understand that black folk suffer the depredations of landlords who consider them subhuman on a spiritual level just to start.

Most of the time someone goes nuts for a reason. If the victims were cops, I wouldn’t find it difficult to imagine a black man had gone mad after suffering at their hands. I would be looking to the reason this man went mad before I chalked it up to plain-old antisemitism and reported it.

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That others are bad folk does not absolve this guy attacking people with a knife. He is no innocent babe in the woods.

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I did not say that. I stated that in my experience there is widespread abuse of black people by landlords in depressed areas - where I have lived, personally - that are almost entirely of the religion espoused by the people who were attacked.

You assume from your lack of knowledge. I will continue to speculate with my actual knowledge.

The writer might have done so too. I don’t pay for a cut and paste job with the same shop-worn opinions as the next fuck down the line.

Trump and the GOP couldn’t be happier…a chance to throw the book at an ā€œanti-semiteā€ as a political rodeo to burnish their pro-Jew bona fides AND the perp is black, so they don’t have to even consider mental illness, despite his family and pastor saying he has a long history of it.

This dude is about to get carved up nine ways to Sunday for political gain. And don’t get me wrong…there’s definitely something horrifyingly wrong in NY and across the country that this shit is bubbling up, not least of which that rising anti-semitism seems to be the historical litmus test for rising fascism…but we have to be able to differentiate where appropriate. Real and true antisemitic attacks or really any kind of pattern of this kind of brazen attack happening repeatedly is likely to trigger mentally ill people to participate too.

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A good day for shits.

Nevertheless what this guy did with his knife is wrong. Can we accept that one point? As to the rest you are more than welcome to your opinion.

Black people are under a pressure in this country that you have no comprehension of and no desire to find out about. Let’s agree on that.

You do not know me. You are assuming a bit too much. You are assuming (wrongly) that I have no comprehension of what black folks go thru daily. Not everyone at TPM is a white suburbanite living in a gated community protected from racism. I am certainly not. So back off. Cool off as well. I am not your enemy.

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And of course…

Surprise surprise surprise it always magically comes back to ā€œit’s really the left causing anti-semitism because they criticize Israel’s behavior.ā€

Bonus that it wasn’t a white guy so they don’t have to whitewash the charges to make him seem a ā€˜lone wolf’.

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ā€œHanukkah Stabberā€? Is that the name we’re going with? It is? OK.

Awww.

Give it up. Then grow up. It is no sin not to live in the Bronx. And tossing around ad hominem at me will get you flagged. You won’t like a time out. And I do not want this to go their either. As I said before… I am not your enemy.

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