GOP Senators Meeting With Lawyer Who Argues Trump Impeachment Is Unconstitutional

Republican senators are meeting with a familiar face on Tuesday to help them decide ex-President Donald Trump’s fate in what will be his second impeachment trial.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1356735

to make the case that impeaching Trump now that he’s out of office would be unconstitutional.

He was impeached, twice, while still in office. What remains is the senate trial after impeachment. Turley appears to know this, why can’t TPM get it right?

The meeting comes after Turley wrote a Fox News op-ed arguing that “[e]ach senator must decide whether such a trial is constitutional

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Yawn. Have at it, Turley.

Failing up is what you do for others who are trying to fail up just like you.

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Of course, Turley turns up. He’s the one dentist out of ten who doesn’t think brushing teeth is a good idea.

What happened to that guy? I remember when he was a mainstay on Olbermann. Now he’s nothing but a craven useful idiot.

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The same Turley who wanted Bill Clinton removed over a stained blue dress is the same Turley telling Republicans they are above the law.

Let that sink in.

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I used to ‘listen’ to Turley and find him ‘interesting’. NOW he is just another lying, kool-aid pusher to misinform the American electorate.

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They roll out this gump every time. Hey, get me a sophist!

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Turley is an immoral, unethical hack, who likes to pretend he is neither.

What’s rather amazing to me, is that this notion that Senators can determine whether or not something is unconstitutional has caught on with the republicans. They can have an opinion, informed or not, sure…but they don’t get to decide definitively, that the province of SCOTUS, not Senate.

And, again, though I know its been stated here many times…it is constitutional, its been done in the past, its not even a legitimate question. Its basically the same old tired refrain from republicans…if they don’t like something, its unconstitutional. If they do like it, its constitutional.

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Well if the GOP senators believe it is unconstitutional, they should boycott and not vote.
Then let SCOTUS decide.
Works for me!

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Turley’s bullshit fire hose is flowing again.

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Have Hawley, Tuberville, Cruz, Blackburn and the rest formally assembled their Petulant Little Bitches Caucus?

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I nominate Turley for the 2021 Golden Duck Award.

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Anybody know more about this?
Sounds pretty big news if true
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“Constitution, which expressly states that removal of a president is the primary purpose of such a trial.”

“Primary” doesn’t mean “only”

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“Constitutionality,” as conveniently construed by powerful mobs, is the bedrock of our Nation.

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These idiots are looking for any reason, no matter how transparent, to not have to deal with this unpleasant business.

They’ll fail.

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precisely.

If Trump is convicted, and banned from pursuing federal office again, he can challenge that ban in the courts. Indeed, Trump could challenge the entire proceedings as soon as he is given legal notice of them – and the courts could then determine whether to issue a TRO against Congress (which it will not do.)

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Turley is arguing a President is free to commit crimes in roughly their last couple months in office, since impeachment takes that long to finish. What does he suggest the Founders envisioned or provided for as Constitutional constraints on Presidential behavior at the end of their term?

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Turley asserted that the trial “is at odds with the language of the Constitution, which expressly states that removal of a president is the primary purpose of such a trial.”

Demonstrably false:

From Article 1, Section 3:

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

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