GOP Sen Suggests Abortion Laws Should Be ‘Turned Back To States’ As Roe Comes Under Threat

…which is, of course, why the GQP will inevitably push to ban abortion nationally: after all, some babies will have a “right to life,” and others won’t, depending on the zip code their potential mother lives in. Where’s the equal protection in that?

I used to think that, but the number of deaths from gun violence they can turn blinders to may hint otherwise.

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Elephant in the studio: Roe decision has abortion—the right to privacy—as a constitutional matter. The US Constitution. Did no one bring this up? You can’t send federal constitutional rights to the states. If you can, then let’s send gun rights back to the states as well.

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Has anyone been arrested for the mail service portion and has it been challenged in court?

I don’t see how they hope to enforce this without using the same deputization of the entire pro-life populace of Texas.

Will they search every pair of knit socks in the US mail into Texas?

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People get prescriptions sent to them by faceless pharmacies all the time: I recently received something from a drugstore hundreds of miles away in Indiana, so that’s not an issue. The issue will be setting up a network of doctors and RNs who can write these prescriptions, and pharmacies willing to fill them.

I wonder if Border Agents will start searching cars for birth control pills, IUDs, and Plan B? I bet Canadian and Mexican pharmacies are going to make bank once at least a third of the country loses reproduction rights.

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This male dumbass cannot grasp that abortion is a MEDICAL PROCEDURE.

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Thank you. This whole thing makes me so angry. I thought this issue was settled in the 1970s. FatAss and the GQP have been turning back the clock on social and environmental issues.

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Let’s be very clear about what kind of person we have here in Sen. Mike Braun (R-IN) … he is vile

If given the wide open and clear yes/no opportunity … to support or oppose
… he absolutely & without hesitation - Would support, endorse and vote for laws that:

  • Would make it a felony to have a child out of wedlock

  • Would Criminalize homosexuality

  • Would establish an official religion of the USA

  • Execute drug addicts

  • Criminalize poverty - create “work-houses”

  • Make Divorce virtually impossible … unless the wife cheated … or got old

What about equal protection in terms of abortion? We’re talking the 14th Amendment.

IANAL, but surely the founders, and subsequent modifications to the Constitution, considered and/or addressed whether states could have laws so different that people in one state could be prosecuted while others would not, particularly when it comes to something as truly universal as pregnancy.

From wikipedia:

" …A primary motivation for this clause was to validate the equality provisions contained in the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which guaranteed that all citizens would have the guaranteed right to equal protection by law. As a whole, the Fourteenth Amendment marked a large shift in American constitutionalism, by applying substantially more constitutional restrictions against the states than had applied before the Civil War. …"

The 14th Amendment reads as follows:
" All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws . [emphasis added]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause (accessed today)

My bet is that Roberts will come down on this side of things. However, it will be a heavy lift to get Trump’s gang of nominees to do anything other than what they were chosen to do.

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Starting with Griswold v. Connecticut, a key legal basis of Roe, a 1965 case holding that a constitutional right to privacy protected the right of married couples to purchase contraceptives. The forces of Gilead and the Federalist Society will be turning their efforts to overturning that decision once the SOCTUS hacks deep six Roe. Plus (despite their lies about returning the abortion decision to the states) seeking to have the Court declare abortion unconstitutional and banning it nationwide.

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As Braun knows, the further down the line one goes in “letting the states/communities decide,” the more powerful the local bullies become. It’s a win/win for the autocrats.

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Yeah, Mike!

Let’s turn everything over to the states to the point that each state has it’s own army, own nuclear arsenal, own religion, own corruption…

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And this applies to other issues as well…” What other issues? Slavery? Birth Control? Summary execution?

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Any and all laws about discrimination. Any Federal law they don’t like, in fact.

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Dear Senator Braun; how about you mind your own fucking business and leave women to make qualified medical decisions for themselves?

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Hey Braun… Shall we return child labor law back to the states, too?

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"And I think the best way to do it is not a patchwork of state laws, but to codify Roe v. Wade, put it into law.”

Ok, that’s not happening and if they try they will fail badly.

It is too easy to use abortion as a cudgel in statewide elections and the voters will go with the “Pro-life”, and “Abortion is murder!” candidate every time. They’ll get just under half of all women to vote with them, and the same 35% of all voters will simply refuse to vote at all.

If we’ve learned anything over the last fifty years of Roe, it is that it’s an easy moral high ground for men to demagogue and that almost half of women who vote don’t want the freedom to choose for themselves or for other women.

It’s time to admit that the public at large, including a shocking plurality of women, just won’t support Roe and letting it go away won’t be the tragedy we’re warned about. The voters don’t care. If they did they’d show up and the 40%-45% of women who vote GOP in every election would stop supporting anti-choice candidates, but they never do.

“And this applies to many other issues as well.””

HAHAHAHA! Like what, Mikey??? Like maybe desegregation, debtors prisons and LGBTQ rights? Fucking theo-fascist kkklown.

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What about equal protection in terms of abortion? We’re talking the 14th Amendment.

IANAL, but surely the founders, and subsequent modifications to the Constitution, considered and/or addressed whether states could have laws so different that people in one state could be prosecuted while others would not, particularly when it comes to something as truly universal as pregnancy.

Now you know what will be on next year’s docket - making the restriction apply to all states.

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