Giuliani: Trump Only ‘Requested,’ Didn’t ‘Demand’ Quid Pro Quo

Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed Tuesday, centering his case for President Donald Trump’s innocence on the dubious logic that Trump only “requested” and did not “demand” that the Ukrainian President make up a Biden scandal.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1261693

Oh, Rutabaga, you’re just such a card.

Bless your heart.

:smirk:

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Right, so if someone goes into a bank, points a gun at a teller and demands money, they haven’t committed a crime if they don’t get any. F***ing asshole.

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The shallowness of this bodes well for us.

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Rudy is a lawyer. His lawyer defense here: asking for a bribe is ok if you do it nicely.

This is what they’ve been reduced to, and yet the party of treason still backs president traitor. What a fucking disgrace.

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No, they haven’t committed a crime if they point a gun and simply request the money.

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Chumming the media waters, looking for a bite.

He’ll get it too.

No lame excuse, no self-contradicting statement, no mobius-strip of rationale will go ‘unexamined and repeated ad-infinitum’ by the ‘non-partisan press’.

Dem’s need to stay on target. Keep drilling straight through the chaff of bullshit.

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I only asked the bank teller to give me the money when I held up the bank, I didn’t demand it.

Of in the distance, a slow soft chant that grows with intensity with every word…

Rooody Rooody ROOODY ROOOOOOOODY.!!!

Everyone at NYU law is completely embarrassed over this fargin’ idiot.

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I’m wondering whether Schiff and company should use the hearings, in part, as a teachable moment to demonstrate clearly the the evidence that it was Russia, not Ukraine, that interfered in 2016. That approach can stifle the distractions that Nunes and company are planning to lob. I mean, Mueller’s report has chapter and verse on this, printouts of evidence, location information, on and on, much of it used in indicting a bunch of Russians.

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Oh well, if that’s the case, Rudy, let’s call everything off.

What an imbecile.

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Every time it’s been the same story

  1. We didn’t do it
  2. We might have done it but there’s not enough proof
  3. We did it but it’s not a crime

This is their template

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Has his law license been suspended??? JFC!!!

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All roads lead to Putin.

You’d hope it will be demonstrated. We’ll see. I know the strategy is NOT to get ‘lost’ in the details that mired down the Muller report. The whole plan was to focus on the ‘call’ basically. The idea being that the public can only focus on one thing at a time.

Seeing the defense at play - which is mostly - "Yeah. it happened but it’s not bad, illegal or impeachable because - Wave hands something something SHINY

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Not all lawyers are this stupid.

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It should be.

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The behaviors indicate age related mental deterioration = Crazy old fuck

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Recall what lawyers do: throw in every possible argument, no matter how little basis there is, legal or otherwise, and see what sticks. The more they throw against the wall, the more time they spend, the more billable hours they rack up. There are no negative repercussions to being wrong, totally off base or totally lacking in legal reasoning. This approach is inculcated in how attorneys like Guliani operate. They’ll keep throwing stuff out until it’s shot down in court. No court, no let up in the absurdity, and, again, no problem if the arguments are patently absurd or indefensible. It’s part of their culture.

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Don’t these comments undercut the flimsy excuse that the extortion never came from Trump himself, but from overzealous surrogates (such as Giuliani himself)?

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I’m surprised he hasn’t offered up the excuse, “Fools! The Ukrainian stunt doubles were desperately trying to bribe US! Not the other way around! HA!”

I guarantee you Chuck Todd will ask a Democrat on Meet the Press this weekend (assuming there are any on the show, which is a pretty big assumption), “but isn’t it a stretch to impeach the president for holding up aid to Ukraine when the aid was delivered?” or some variation on that.

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