First Person To Receive Plea Deal In Federal Whitmer Kidnapping Case Gets Six Years In Prison | Talking Points Memo

A judge issued the first sentence in the federal case against those accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, sentencing a man who pleaded guilty to participating in the plot to six years in prison. 


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Pul-leaze.
My father was also abusive, and I haven’t tried to kidnap any governors lately.
Grow the fuck up.

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Dude, and Dude’s co-conspirators your friends screwed you over with their copy cat plan. Though they aimed higher they were like you, losers.

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Six years and he cooperated fully? Imagine what those idiots who take it to court will get.

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Well this guy better not get probation.

And dude you shouldn’t get probation just because you said you were sorry, you’re not a 3 year old.

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There are a lot of different tragedies in this story. I see a dumb guy who certainly did not need to end up doing this. I see a worthy and hard-working governor whose entire life was turned upside down. And I see a society where people’s lives are so precarious their livelihood is threatened by every ripple in the economy, much less a tidal wave like COVID. Certainly he is responsible for his actions and must pay the price, but it is hard to forget that there is a whole media empire and political party that eggs people like this on and on 24/7.

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Six years for this guy suggests 10+ years for the non co-ops. Unless they get lucky with a holdout juror. It happens.

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From the very first time I saw this guy’s picture, I knew he was going to be the first to flip and rat on his buddies. He just looks like a rat and a coward.

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may they rot.

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Garbin’s anger at Whitmer was fueled in part by a COVID-related pay cut, after which he sought out “similarly frustrated or aggrieved people on the internet,” the filing said.

‘Economic anxiety’ excuse strikes again!

Afterall, what the Governor was doing was unprecedented and, many thought, lawless. Even the President of the United States of America called on citizens to “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”

Don’t see this reported, but the sentencing memo from the defense lawyer seems to be trying to also implicated Trump (even if not actionable for prosecution).

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Probably the youngest of the bunch. Might have a shot to salvage a future.

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In this case, being a rat (and testifying against others) is a good thing.

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I agree, all of this perspective is important. We all live in a context, or really a matrix of contexts, not a vacuum. And those contexts are created on an ongoing basis by actions taken many people. It all matters, and all of it, from individual actions to group actions (looking at you GQP and Fox and friends), has to be addressed if things are to get better.

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The wake of criminality, at all levels of society, left behind by TFG is really mind boggling when you reflect on it. Unbelievable how many people will go to jail for actions they thought were in support of TFG. And TFG will not lift a finger or spare a dime to help them out…

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Winning?

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For all the talk of evolving and advancing as a species, “Monkey see, Monkey do” is still a pretty big driving force for a lot of our behavior.

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Looks to me that he had at least the remains of a conscience. It takes a lot of guts to decide that the people you have been hanging with are nuts.

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You know, with all these pending convictions and all these dying Republicans, it’s no wonder the Rethugs are desperate to suppress voting. If trends continue they will have successfully removed almost a million of their voters by the time of the 2022 midterms.

It may not seem like much but it could make a difference in some close statewide race and even a few purplish districts. Might also make it a lot tougher to gerrymander certain districts when the Red semi-urban enclaves lose 2 to 3% of their populations.

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Or a decent lawyer who explains the likely end of alternative pleas and strategies.

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Another

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