Federal Judge Orders Pence To Testify About Convos With Trump Leading Up To Insurrection

A federal judge for the D.C. district court ruled that former Vice President Mike Pence must comply with a grand jury subpoena and testify in special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into former President Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election, according to multiple news outlets


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1452791

This will get appealed all the way to SCOTUS.

We can guess how they will rule and we won’t hear the decision for another two years, while it wends its way through the court system with no apparent urgency.

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Seems to me that Pence got the partial victory that he wanted. Why would he take his victory to the S.C. or is it that DJT will take it to the S.C.?

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It will be interesting to see what he responds to and what he declines to answer, considering he wrote about a lot of it in a book already.

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I’d bet on TFG moving it to the Supreme court. I don’t know if he has standing, but he just might. Or certainly will try.

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The desire to put juicy bits into books to goose sales has undone a number of these cowards.

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Except we already know the convos:

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“Pence has previously vowed to take the case to the Supreme Court if necessary, calling the subpoena ‘unconstitutional and unprecedented.’”

Whole lotta unconstitutional and unprecedented stuff going on these days.

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Pence is going to need Extra-strength, Extra-capacity Depends while he tries to follow his “strongly held belief” that “Thou shall not bear false witness “. His sweat alone is going to turn those depends soggy. Pence is not a quick thinker, can’t wait to see him squirm while giving testimony.

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All of the stuff he published in his book is fair game?

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As Pence’s role in regard to the election certification process is by Pence’s own admission “ceremonial”, it is a real question as to how much protection he has.

For example, does it mean Pence will or will not have to answer questions about the scheme to submit fake electors?

I suspect the answer to that question will determine who appeals the ruling.

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That can happen very quickly, as we saw with the extremely expedited appeal of Evan Corcoran’s order to testify. And SCOTUS mostly isn’t interested in bailing out Mike Pence or his former boss.

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Unfortunately, given that it’s a Grand Jury, we won’t be able to see him squirm and sweat.

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Delay for the sake of delay. The SC is hardly likely to give him a worse ruling. Why not try and burn some more time? It won’t work, but they’ll still try.

Also, with this partial victory they will still claim privilege, even when none clearly exists, and force new rounds of litigation on specific questions or evidence, as to whether it was part of his official duties or part of his support for an insurrection.

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Short delay but Evan Corcoran testified shortly after he lost his appeal.

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The article say that “Boasberg’s ruling agreed that Pence can decline to answer questions related to his legislative actions on Jan. 6.”

Since Pence’s role that day was primarily (or exclusively) ceremonial, what could that possibly mean? Anyone?

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Someone should look into that stuff.

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Yet more proof that our justice system is biased against Repubs, er, I mean, criminals…

Pence is going to be busy for a while. These legal dodges could sink his presidential campaign, such as it is.

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A distinction without a difference.

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