FBI Is Monitoring Protest Groups At The Border As ‘Extremists’

The FBI chapter based in Phoenix, Arizona, is investigating so-called “anarchist extremists” who’ve been protesting the conditions at the migrant detention centers along the southern border.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1246369

Just because the FBI has been under attack by Trump’s minions does not change the fact that the bureau has a long history of illegally repressing lawful organizations.

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Oooh … peaceful demonstrations and ‘discussions’ and critical ‘rhetoric’ about the cruel mistreatment of children and other human beings.

Much too extreme. They might call more attention to the situation and the movement and demands to treat these people like … well, people, will grow.

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The question is, what is the FBI going to do about it? That is some dummy writing a memo is one thing, but what action has or will the FBI take?

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And what does the memo about the armed white supremacists roaming the desert looking for brown people have to say? Somehow, I suspect it doesn’t call them extremists…

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They could have squeezed in a coupla “communist influenced” just for old times sake.

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Because those armed anti-government militias in the northwest are just good old boys…

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How does the song go? ‘Four dead in Ohio’.

I know that was National Guard, but how do we know that won’t happen again in AZ?

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And that dummy who wrote the memo contradicted themselves from beginning of the sentence to the end of the sentence.
AE’s are going to arm themselves, but they will only use firearms for self defense.
I’m pretty sure if Gandhi were to come back with his nonviolence resistance movement he would have a FBI file double quick.

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They’d just re-open the old one.

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I’m not that confident that it couldn’t happen again.

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Matthew 23: 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

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Sounds like it’s time to dig up J. Edgar, throw a ball gown on him reinstall him as Queen of the FBI.

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I thought the FBI had field offices, not “chapters.”

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Is Hoover in charge again? No I guess not, it is some guy called Barr. Probably related to each other.

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Yes - and those actions, especially in the 60s and 70s, were targeted against the left - MLK and various civil rights organizations such as SNCC, the NAACP, the anti-war movement, Black Panthers, etc. There were some legitimate targets, like the SLA, but by and large it was a system of unlawful and unconstitutional surveillance and harassment of legitimate political organizations. Much of this came out in Frank Church’s committee hearings during the mid-1970s

Any legislation passed now that expands the ability of the FBI to define and target domestic groups under a definition of ‘domestic terrorism’ can be expected to be used most strenuously against groups that conservatives would define as ‘leftist’ rather than the larger threat of white supremacists, nationalists, KKK and Nazis.

This was borne out in statements made last week concerning Antifa. People associated with “Antifa”, such as it is, have been engaged in vandalism (regrettable) but, to my knowledge, there have been no terrorist threats or actions by Antifa.

And by the freaking way, we should all be anti-fascists, shouldn’t we? We lost 650,000 American souls during WWII fighting fascists in Europe and Asia. The idea that being ‘anti-fascist’ should make one a terrorist is insulting to our history and to the Democratic principles that define this country.

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Being opposed to immigration officials’ treatment of migrants and protesting the conditions at the migrant detention centers along the southern border does not make one an anti-government anarchist. Absent any act of violence it marks these people as exercising their 1st Amendment rights peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

As to “discussing, planning, or implementing firearms training,” I thought the right wing, which clearly includes the FBI chapter [sic] based in Phoenix, Arizona, view the 2nd Amendment as absolute and sacrosanct.

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Exactly, legacy of J Edgar.

If I still lived in AZ, I’d be right there with the “anarchist extremists”. These right wingers are trying to make it look as if they’re in the right and anyone that protests is wrong. This makes me so angry.

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In other words, orders came down the pipeline to manufacture some false equivalence they can use to sell the MSM on bothsiderism when white supremacists come up.

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