Fauci: Taking Comfort In Lower COVID Death Rate Is A ‘False Narrative’ | Talking Points Memo

[pluckyinky]

This disease IS a worst nightmare from both an epidemiologist’s perspective (due to rapid airborne transmission) and a clinician’s perspective (all the damage that can happen just about anywhere). I don’t think I need to describe the permanent scarring of lung tissue.

It continues to drive me utterly insane how even the most responsible members of the media have spent so little time focusing on Covid complications. So many young people think they can’t get it or are pretty much guaranteed mild symptoms and they just aren’t taking it seriously.

One of my friends who is an RN and has a fairly high profile in one of the local hospital systems had a fourth of July party at his townhouse. He invited 20 people on FB and included a note that folks should feel free to bring whomever. His condo has only a small deck and no yard, so everyone would be packed inside an area that is maybe about 700 sq ft. He encouraged others to bring food and was planning to have a buffet set up and typical July 4th eats. His parties always include plenty of alcohol and usually end in everyone pretty damn tipsy. I laughed when I declined the invitation. This is the perfect set of circumstances for a super spreader event. I am so thoroughly disappointed in him and everyone else who went that I could spit.

[mattinpa]

An RN, you say.

[mec]

reckless nutjob

[bwillator]

Yep yep yep. I’ve been especially enjoying the part about needing to make contingency plans. If they’d have ignored President Baby and done that when the convention was still scheduled for Charlotte, they might have been able to pull something out. I hope the folks in Charlotte realize that they dodged a bullet.

[pluckyinky]

An RN, you say

Yep! That’s what pisses me off to no end. He’s 35 and probably thinks he’s ten foot tall and bulletproof even though he’s morbidly obese. I just don’t get it.

[mattinpa]

Hey, I can’t talk, not as a Pennsylvanian anyway. We “reopened” and the daily new infections have steadily risen ever since. It was averaging under 400 statewide for a while, and the latest number is nearly a thousand. All this with essentially no ability to seriously test and track anywhere in the country I’m aware of. People have just given up, a lot of them. It’s insane.

[tena]

And every day it seems as though the Dallas paper features another nurse or doctor pleading with people to wear masks and be responsible.

As I recall, there was an RN at the first bar that opened up in some state. She later apologized for having been there.

The woman who killed her 17 year old daughter not getting her treated for COVID is an RN.

I am plainly missing something - I don’t get it.

[mattinpa]

he’s morbidly obese

That’s uncommon in the medical world too. Bit of an outlier as far as health habits, your guy.

[darrtown]

I hate trump
I hate him for a long list of reasons
The list keeps growing.
My country is bleeding internally and externally
It’s like the way covid attacks tiny blood vessels and caused thousands of itty bitty clots that kill people.
Trump thinks there is no problem.
He could care less that 130,000 of his countrymen/women he swore to keep safe lie dead.
He has said he takes no responsibility for a pandemic he could have defended us against.
How anyone can support or vote for this cruel monster is beyond my ability to jnderstand. And I know people who support him. People are dying around me. Literally… next door neighbors… I am not being paranoid. People I know. That I care about. That trump said 99% have nothing happen from covid infection is not based in reality. He thinks it’s the flu and an exceedingly mild flu at that. He might want to ask the president of Brazil how he feels right now. Or his son’s arm candy.
I am disgusted by this sociopathic freak.

[Volvo_Birkenstock]

Anybody can have mental/emotional issues, and anybody can have fantasy issues when it comes to their “understanding” of science. Don’t get me started on anti-vaxxers, and if there are any here, you sure as hell don’t want to get into a discussion with me on the subject. I hope that is understood, because I will not be gentle and I will likely breach TOS with them. Friggin’ Luddites.

[tena]

Well they vaccinated the daylights out of my generation and we were the first and I was a willing subject. I didn’t give it any thought - we all had to do it to get into school. I don’t understand what happened. I don’t understand anti-vaxxers. I don’t understand flat earthers, either. I’ve seen the earth’s curve flying back he northern route from England, over Newfoundland. I’ve seen sails disappear over the horizon. I’ve seen the pictures from space. And one reason I’ve gotten to see all those things is because I didn’t get polio or die of small pox or any of the other diseases that used to carry children off on the regular.

Those people need a tour of a 19th century cemetery - see all the children’s graves.

[rucleare]

He could care less that 130,000 of his countrymen/women he swore to keep safe lie dead.

This - the uncaring part - is what drives me insane. This man registered as both unthinking and uncaring the moment he opened his yap to announce his bid for the presidency. His so-called base shrugged and said “So? He’s a bidnissman, who tells it like we wanna hear it.” A whole fucking country has been swirling around the drain ever since. GRRRRRRRRRRR…

[Mingus]

I wonder if Fauci is finally fed up and ready to be fired.
Maybe this is a salvo, i.e., saying “false narrative” and waiting for the tweet-illery from Trump and the crickets from the cowering GOP.

[jackson_frisell]

Exactly!

Ah, such an exceptional Republican culture, ain’t it? The inculturation of instruments of dominance and death. Attractive young ladies smiling broadly in the background. On a friggin’ jet. Oh, how fucking lovely.

[quickq]

Three million identified cases during tonight’s news…

[brian512]

The woman who killed her 17 year old daughter not getting her treated for COVID is an RN.

That may be the single most disturbing thing I’ve read recently. And these days, the competition is intense.

[arrendis]

And all that long-term organ damage can occur in patients who display absolutely no symptoms. Which means this thing’s killing people on a timer, and they don’t even know they’re dead.

[Volvo_Birkenstock]

Truth be told, if they’re sick enough to obtain long-term organ damage that eventually causes death, then they’re not going to feel too great while that’s happening unless the onset is reeeeealy slooooow, until such time that they hit a threshold and go see a doctor. Think of the frog in the heating pot-of-water metaphor. The damage that worries me the most are the potential for mini-strokes. You think you’re thinking a little foggy, and it ends up being a permanent fog.

[arrendis]

Well, in the case of long-term organ damage in patients with no symptoms at all? That is the boiling frog. Lots of little hurts that don’t really impact you, but don’t heal, until just one more makes it all cascade down at once.

[Volvo_Birkenstock]

I guess it remains to be seen if one can collect long-term systemic damage everywhere and not notice it by feeling at least a little poorly and ignoring that symptom.

I’ve read about autopsies being performed on COVID-19 victims where blood clots were found in every organ. It would seem to me that Magnetic Resonance (MR) scans would be a very good early detector of blood clots forming in organs, so that anti-clotting agents could be prescribed. Either that, or every COVID-19 patient is placed on blood thinners unless they have a pre-existing condition that would contra-indicate that approach.