Epstein Dies By Suicide | Talking Points Memo

Accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein died from an apparent suicide in his New York City jail cell overnight, according to ABC News and the New York Times Saturday morning.


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Well damn, that’s one way to cover up everyone else’s crimes.

I’m surprised he wasn’t on suicide watch.

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One might think it was the plan all along.

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Suicide, or was he silenced to keep from testifying against the many powerful and rich people (including Trump) that went to his child rape parties?

I mean, the first “suicide attempt” was pretty suspicious too.

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Lordy I hope there are tapes.

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He was… and they watched him commit suicide

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according to the article, he was on suicide watch.

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For all cases where “watched” means provided a helping hand.

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So, what are the odds that this was a bona fide, I don’t want to face the coming trial and humiliation and rest of my life in prison, and am already so depressed I don’t want to live anyone, suicide, as opposed to an outside “intervention”, be it physical, or some deal cut wherein in exchange for his offing himself his family is taken care of and/or he himself won’t be “taken care of” in a far more gruesome and brutal way at some yet to be determined time in the future with the horrific hell of living with that knowledge every waking moment, possibly for years? This was not a genuinely tough man.

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A gangster outcome in a gangster Administration.

Supported by FOX News

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What is the procedure for a suicide watch at the jail where this happened or in general? I have no experience with this sort of thing. I had assumed it meant 24x7 surveillance.

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I hate everything right now

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My guess is that we will never really know. (For goodness sake, people are still arguing about the Kennedy assassination.)

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…so now what happens to the investigation? Does it die with him?

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Damn - how does someone who (probably) tried to kill himself earlier get a chance to try again? I was in jail once overnight for a traffic violation (long story) - they took my shoelaces so I wouldn’t hang myself, and my glasses so I couldn’t stab myself to death.

Of course there’s always the nonzero chance that this was murder to shut him up.

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I’m not going to hesitate to voice my suspicions here. This stinks.

First, over the years, Epstein has gone through all kinds of legal hell, and the worst kind of risks and disgrace and shame, and emerged grinning and unscathed. So the psychological profile of the guy is not suicidal. Second, he was placed on suicide watch. That means, presumably, that all potentially instruments of self-harm were removed from his presence. Third, an extraordinary number of extraordinarily powerful people no longer have to worry about the potential number one witness to their criminal depravities.

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You mean in the same way that the courts are impartial?

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That’s my guess and my response to that is above

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As Atrios at Eschaton.com put it best:

“No way it wasn’t going to end that way.”

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How convenient.

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