Election Deniers Are Running To Control Voting In More Than Half of U.S. States - TPM – Talking Points Memo

Election deniers are running to oversee the election process in 27 states, according to a new report out the morning after the final primary elections of 2022.


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So maybe, I’m beginning to think, this is what the American voter wants.

How is it that everyone gets a vote, but these people are even still in the running? There’s something about this that makes me think people outside of TPM actually want this. How else to explain?

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I hate to over simplify but these folks need to see the inside of the prison system.

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Election deniers are running to oversee the election process in 27 states,

We’re f#@ked. We’ll have tfg again or a smart version of him.

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Not a bit of it!

There are more of us than them – millions more – including tons of people here at TPM who are precinct chairs, campaign workers, and election judges in real life, fighting like hell every single day between now and November.

One of the goals of corrupt regimes is to demoralize the opposition, to convince them they can’t win, to instill hopelessness. Don’t buy it.

Roe backlash is real, Trump and his allies are in a futile sprint for their legal lives, and internal polling increasingly has the GOP in panic mode.

A reckoning is coming.

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There’s another party on the ballot as well… Just because they got through their primaries and republicans in the primaries nudged them over the top to the general doesn’t mean they’re all getting into office.

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People vote GQP out of tribal loyalty, plus TPM is a bit of a self-selected liberal bias.

I know polls aren’t the be all and end all, but I’d be absolutely shocked if any of Abbot, DeSatan and Li’l Marco lose, and I’ve said before that 538 is showing there’s a 30% chance the GQP will win both chambers, which is the same chance as the good guys will both. We make get lucky and extend the Senate majority by 1 or 2, but I wouldn’t hold my breath - unfortunately Walker is a toss up to win in Georgia, which in any sane society would be unthinkable.

It could be that a bunch more Dems will turn out, motivated by Dobbs, but I don’t see that as a foregone conclusion. But round about half the country will vote for TMFWWNBN and his sycophants, as unbelievable as that is to the reality-based observers.

It’s down to turnout and motivation, and the Cristo-fascists are good at getting out the vote.

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I have no doubt of that, but the question is, why is this even a thing? There’s a percentage of these folks will get through the general and end up in a position of authority that they aren’t qualified for and shouldn’t be within 15 miles of. And yet, there are voters who think that’s not a problem.

Is this going to be another situation, like Roe, where these voters think it can’t happen to them or the candidates aren’t serious about their intentions?

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Well said! I was going to respond similarly but didn’t because I’m not in the game.

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It’s gotta be more than luck. The turnout has to make it work. I agree with your statement.

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“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerated the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.”
― Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Can’t argue with you. Everyone gets a vote, but not everyone uses it and too often that falls on our side. Top it off with a complacent (or worse) media and the fact that the human race isn’t scaling up well and yer lookin’ at some trouble down the pike.

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Because primaries are generally low-turnout things that reward the more extreme positions in either party, as you have the most motivated voters partaking.

Just so happens that the MAGA are really motivated voters, so more of their cuckoo-looneys are making it past the primaries instead of more “mainstream” republicans.

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I don’t think we have the metrics for turnout yet. I just don’t know, but I would think this would be important, too.

We’re watching this slip away with both hands tied behind our backs. Roevember needs to be a massive turnout.

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Handwringing is…good (in this case)

If I were presented with the situation we are in, I would be alarmed.

…and hand-wring

…and then get to work, both w/r/t GOTV but also the socio-psychological things that impact winning for our candidates

Just some of these socio-psychological things involve messaging, focus, organization and attitude

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We’re literally not. Both Dems and Republicans are on the ballot, I rather imagine the election deniers are mostly on the republican side of the ballot.

So this says nothing about each individual’s chance of getting their seat. Will some in red states? Absolutely. But they’re nuts anyways.

Don’t understand the hair-on-fire here. Hell, a Dem just won Alaska’s open seat, and that had been in R hands since the 1970s.

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Moral panic, mass hysteria, California hating. It will pass like a self limiting case of scabies. But with dangerous climate change in the offing, do we have the time?

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I was just meeting with a colleague who is a Trump Republican and he still thinks there will be a red wave in November. He seemed utterly clueless about the effects of the anti abortion nonsense on the psyche of the American population. I think some folks will be in for a surprise.

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But they didn’t give Trump another turn, and in general the wingnuts are dragging down their chances. McConnell complained about it. So it’s maybe what a plurality of Republicans want. Doesn’t seem like it’s true for a majority of the voters nationwide. Shapiro is well ahead of Masteriano, for instance.

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