Don’t Let Trump Repeat His New York Case Social Posts, Government Says

Special counsel Jack Smith asked a D.C. federal judge on Tuesday to stop Donald Trump from harassing jurors before he has the opportunity to do so.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1470813

It will be interesting to see if this judge will put direct limits on Trump and on his behavior. In the recent past, she appears to have adopted the tactic of using court procedure to work indirectly on Trump’s behalf without being aggressively and overtly biased in his favor. In light of Tump’s tendency to push every boundary, it will be interesting to see how long this lasts.

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Lupe says, “Shut up, Orange Humanoid.”

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This is about the DC case, with Judge Chutkan (para. 4,) not the documents case in Florida with Judge Cannon.
I am not aware of Judge Chutkan showing this bias.

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"A wise man speaks because he has something to say, a fool speaks because he has to say something."

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… and a malicious man because he wants someone hurt.

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Wrong judge. I think you are referring to Cannon, the Florida judge fudging procedures on Trump’s behalf in the Mar-a-Lago documents case.

This request from Jack Smith to protect jurors relates to the DC case charging Trump with crimes around the January 6 insurrection. The DC judge has not tolerated any nonsense from Trump or his lawyers.

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The head of the Trump Crime syndicate wants to be martyr but he does not want to go to jail. That is the only threat that may work. I believe Judge Chunkin, who has shown judicial restraint, will allow The Don enough rope to hang himself. But the acolytes of his cult will not hear why he was restrained because of the information silo they inhabit. The violence of the red hats are direct descendants of the Brown Shirts in Germany and we must expect those assaults not only against the law but also the apparatus to enforce those laws.

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The Judge in DC should simply revoke the Orange Asshole’s (and draft dodger) bond and throw his cowardly ass in jail. Then wherever he’s convicted and sentenced to hard time, it can be less time served.

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Yes. The Oath Keepers and their ilk fit that description perfectly. We shouldn’t forget that Hitler came to power originally thru democratic means, invited into government after Nazis got about 25% of vote in 1932 elections.

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Hey donald…
A little something for you to think about…
And after you get tossed from the list of richest Americans by Forbes (snicker)

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Witness threats and intimidation have long been a standard and important part of Trump’s many legal issues and efforts, going back decades. He’s already done that with his lies about and doxxing of the Georgia Grand Jury, and they will not even be among those voting on his guilt or innocence in that upcoming trial. It would be a blatant obstruction of justice and interference in court proceedings were he to repeat that behavior in his DC trial. A gag order is needed, and ASAP.

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Jailing Trump is going to be difficult without giving him a potential 1st Amendment appeal on conviction, or maybe even getting the Supreme Court involved before the trial date. It wouldn’t be done on first violation anyway, a gag order would need multiple infractions before a jail threat.

The judge does have one potential bit of leverage, the threat to move the trial date closer if he can’t keep his mouth shut. He would hate that. It’s the one thing he fears, a conviction earlier in the primary cycle. IIRC, the judge has already mentioned this as a possibility. Of course this also runs into potential due process issues. She can’t rush the trial too much without giving him a reason to appeal or toss out the case. But it might work as just a threat.

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How do you come by this rather bizarre interpretation of Judge Chutkin’s orders and comments? You cite absolutely nothing to back up what appears to me to be a risible take on the matter.

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If the reference is to Cannon, I think it’s equally mistaken from the opposite direction. Her bias has been, at the very least, implicit, since her original orders restricting access to the seized material and appointing a special master. The Eleventh Circuit made it pretty clear how bizarrely eccentric those orders were.

@libthinker

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Someone should impress upon Donald that he’s right, that everyone really is out to get him.
And, no, it’s not because of Gyna: they’re like everyone else and want to get him, because, well, it’s just the thing to do.
ETA: He should, however, take comfort in the fact that fashions change.

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Indeed, having been spanked by the 11th Circuit, Cannon is still biased - just more circumspect as to how she puts her thumb on the scales.

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Who would have thought the real 9/11 was a pretend golden escalator.

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I agree with Smith’s precautionary approach. Trump has a history of this and it should not be tolerated simply because he’s running for office. Running for office is his choice, justice needs to be served regardless of that.

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Wisdom is silent. Silence is not always wisdom.

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